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Re: Show HN: I made a memory game to teach you to play piano by ear

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> With all due respect, I'll stack up anything I've ever created against anything of yours at any time

I realize the GP comment was a provocation, but please don't respond to a bad comment by breaking the site guidelines yourself. That only makes things worse.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Show HN: I made a memory game to teach you to play piano by ear

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Very cool! Love the simplicity of this. Built a similar mode in Midiano (also a midi webapp, but focused on playing MIDI files). But this is much cleaner for a quick exercise. Mine never really got past the prototype stage though. Safe to say, I'll be coming back to this thread for ideas when I do get around working on it again :)

Thanks Bewelge! I took a look at Midiano - it's very polished! Were you inspired by Synthesia? I know it has a combination of falling note + sheet notation as well~ https://synthesiagame.com

Definitely inspired by it - I had been using Synthesia myself to play piano. But it started more as a "Oh you can use MIDI on the web?"-realisation and grew from there

Re: Show HN: I made a memory game to teach you to play piano by ear

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Just bought a digital piano as New Year present to myself. So far I am doing single-note-a-time melodies from my child's practice book and so far enjoying my slow progress, but I am really struggling. Spent 3 evenings on a single simplest song and still can't play it end to end reliably. I have to sign every note with a letter in a music book because only other way to "read" music sheet for me is count lines for each…

I've found that a colorful note guide (such as: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BC8NVW4Q) to be very helpful. Without it, I felt completely lost when looking at sheet music.

Re: Show HN: I made a memory game to teach you to play piano by ear

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If you could see analytics you would see I am the worst player at this game. But it is cool - can you actually plug in a keyboard to your laptop and use it? If so, what would HN recommend I get? As mentioned I suck at musical instruments but it could be a cool hobby to see if I can learn anything.

Re: Show HN: I made a memory game to teach you to play piano by ear

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Hah, very cool! I have a variation on that in an experimental version of some software I wrote and found it to be really interesting to compare experienced pianists' performance on it versus newbies. And that is the main reason why it is still unreleased, it is very hard to design a good educational tool so kudos on shipping!

Thanks jacquesm! I’ve met such a wide variety of pianists (jazz, pure extemporaneous players, hobbyists, strict Suzuki, etc.) that it would be very cool to see that kind of breakdown.

Re: Show HN: I made a memory game to teach you to play piano by ear

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've played the piano for years. Your immediate conclusion that my dislike must stem from inexperience instead of a more nuanced place strikes me as the exact kind of thing you're lamenting in your comment.

> a more nuanced place Your original comment implies "it's GenAI so it must be bad."

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Re: Show HN: I made a memory game to teach you to play piano by ear

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Right, and I addressed all that as well. I doubt we are in serious disagreement here and calls for me to “read a book” are frankly rude. I think you need to be more generous in the interpretation of others words because I actually disagree with the original poster for the most part, but you obviously have a different definition of “teach” than he. Flash cards don’t teach. They assist memorization or practice. Memoriz…

I'm not asking you to read a book. Sorry for being unclear. The reading a book stuff all started from this in my original comment: > You can read about music theory (and should) but the only way to [...] My point is just that "you" (an abstract you) can learn music abstractly and in practice. Some things require book reading. Some things require practice and listening. Nothing intended about the cgriswald "you". I kn…

Ah, apologies for my misunderstanding. Maybe I should be more generous in interpreting others words. I don’t think we disagree about that either. To me it isn’t about “What it’s called” but about the concept itself. Intervals are “hidden” in this ear training. You get them for free but you don’t necessarily learn that the pattern is there at all. I can agree that the doing ability is more important than the concept but it’s not just about the name. That’s just what we have to use to talk about it.

Re: Show HN: I made a memory game to teach you to play piano by ear

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Just bought a digital piano as New Year present to myself. So far I am doing single-note-a-time melodies from my child's practice book and so far enjoying my slow progress, but I am really struggling. Spent 3 evenings on a single simplest song and still can't play it end to end reliably. I have to sign every note with a letter in a music book because only other way to "read" music sheet for me is count lines for each…

That's good question. While I think my app might help with your ability to pick out notes - it's not going to assist with stuff like proper pianistic ergonomics, fingering, etc.

I’ve heard some people say that the Piano Adventures Player app is a nice little tool because it serves as a supplement to the books themselves.

https://pianoadventures.com/resources/piano-adventures-playe...

Good luck on your journey!

Re: Show HN: I made a memory game to teach you to play piano by ear

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Hah, very cool! I have a variation on that in an experimental version of some software I wrote and found it to be really interesting to compare experienced pianists' performance on it versus newbies. And that is the main reason why it is still unreleased, it is very hard to design a good educational tool so kudos on shipping!

Thanks jacquesm! I’ve met such a wide variety of pianists (jazz, pure extemporaneous players, hobbyists, strict Suzuki, etc.) that it would be very cool to see that kind of breakdown.

It is a fascinating domain, if I can give you any tips it would be to research early language acquisition, there is a lot of gold in those studies that I think will transfer fairly well to music learning.

Re: Show HN: I made a memory game to teach you to play piano by ear

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If you could see analytics you would see I am the worst player at this game. But it is cool - can you actually plug in a keyboard to your laptop and use it? If so, what would HN recommend I get? As mentioned I suck at musical instruments but it could be a cool hobby to see if I can learn anything.

Hey gardenhedge,

Haha - I don't collect any telemetry so your secret is safe. Yeah - if you've got a USB midi keyboard plugged in - the game should autodetect it and just work.

If you're looking for something portable that just works (and don't need a weighted action) - IK Multimedia makes a 37-key controller that is cheap and decent. It's frequently on sale for about $80-120 and probably could be had for cheaper secondhand.

https://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/irigkeys2

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