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Re: Show HN: I made a memory game to teach you to play piano by ear

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Post by nopurpose »

Just bought a digital piano as New Year present to myself. So far I am doing single-note-a-time melodies from my child's practice book and so far enjoying my slow progress, but I am really struggling. Spent 3 evenings on a single simplest song and still can't play it end to end reliably.

I have to sign every note with a letter in a music book because only other way to "read" music sheet for me is count lines for each note, which is unbearably slow.

I wonder if there is any modern (AI, bluetooth midi app, etc) way to get over initial hurdles easier?

Re: Show HN: I made a memory game to teach you to play piano by ear

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Post by vunderba »

dvt wrote: post #83
vunderba wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Hacker News has become weirdly anti-hacker in the last 5 or so years, so please keep building stuff and keep posting it. This is literally what HN is supposed to be. The "AI slop" tirade is just bottom of the barrel bandwaggoning for upvotes because it's popular to hate AI today

Thanks for the support. Honestly, I probably shouldn’t get so defensive either, it’s a bad habit and a pretty poor "evolutionary holdover" in the internet age of anonymity and social media.

I thought one way to help mitigate my emotional responses was to desensitize myself, but who really wants to expose themselves to the requisite sufficient threshold of personal attacks? That’s not exactly a fun callus to develop.

Re: Show HN: I made a memory game to teach you to play piano by ear

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Post by smeej »

ladidahh wrote: post #5

It be nice if you mapped the keys to the user keyboard kinda like ableton, for people who dont have a midi controller handy White Keys: The keys from ‘A’ to ‘L’ on your keyboard correspond to the white keys on a piano, covering a full octave from C to D. Black Keys: The keys in between, like ‘W’ and ‘E’, correspond to the black keys or the sharp notes on a piano. from : https://www.electrikjam.com/use-your-keyboard-a…

Also a possibility: An on-screen keyboard. I'd happily click the keys. Or even the lines on the staff for that matter.

Re: Show HN: I made a memory game to teach you to play piano by ear

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Post by jacquesm »

Hah, very cool! I have a variation on that in an experimental version of some software I wrote and found it to be really interesting to compare experienced pianists' performance on it versus newbies. And that is the main reason why it is still unreleased, it is very hard to design a good educational tool so kudos on shipping!

Re: Show HN: I made a memory game to teach you to play piano by ear

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Post by ElijahLynn »

vunderba wrote: post #84
ElijahLynn wrote: post #80

Love this!! One improvement that would help me a lot is to control the playback speed. My brain needs to start a bit slower as some of the sequences are fairly fast for my brain right now. Thank you

Derp - I didn't even think about adding a control for min/max tempo ranges. The defaults are currently - Simon is set to 100-120 BPM - Practice mode is set to 90-160 BPM I'll add it to the Settings later this evening. Thanks for the feedback!

Great, thank you!

Re: Show HN: I made a memory game to teach you to play piano by ear

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Post by recursive »

cgriswald wrote: post #77
recursive wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I addressed that. You should read a book to learn the definition of intervals. But in addition, there's no substitute for ear training. Grinding on interval identification is just as valid as this. Once you get to a level where you can identify intervals on the keyboard, the skills are pretty transferable. But there's just no way to learn what a fifth sounds like by reading a book. You need something like this. There…

Right, and I addressed all that as well. I doubt we are in serious disagreement here and calls for me to “read a book” are frankly rude. I think you need to be more generous in the interpretation of others words because I actually disagree with the original poster for the most part, but you obviously have a different definition of “teach” than he. Flash cards don’t teach. They assist memorization or practice. Memoriz…

I'm not asking you to read a book. Sorry for being unclear. The reading a book stuff all started from this in my original comment:

> You can read about music theory (and should) but the only way to [...]

My point is just that "you" (an abstract you) can learn music abstractly and in practice. Some things require book reading. Some things require practice and listening. Nothing intended about the cgriswald "you".

I know how to do long-hand multiplication and have memorized the 12x12 multiplication table. I'm not sure which one is more valuable, but I think they complement each other.

I'm not sure if we actually disagree about anything, except maybe the relative value of knowing what an interval sounds like vs what it's called.

Re: Show HN: I made a memory game to teach you to play piano by ear

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Post by ianbutler »

Fraterkes wrote: post #99
ianbutler wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are plenty of musicians here saying this is useful for them or would be useful while learning. As meta commentary, those not in a subgroup sometime fail to see utility of a thing built for that subgroup and it's easy to feel a sense of superiority "oh how dumb and trivial this thing is", but it may be better to first have curiosity and see how the intended audience responds. Often it's not dumb or trivial, you'…

I've played the piano for years. Your immediate conclusion that my dislike must stem from inexperience instead of a more nuanced place strikes me as the exact kind of thing you're lamenting in your comment.

As the other poster said, your comment didn't really leave any room for nuance, it was "ai bad". And it's also clear you're too egoistic/defensive to reflect on it.

Other commentary is you're not owed courtesy you yourself didn't give.

Re: Show HN: I made a memory game to teach you to play piano by ear

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Post by dang »

Fraterkes wrote: post #13

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Please don't cross into personal attack on HN generally, and especially please not in Show HN threads. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

https://news.ycombinator.com/showhn.html

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