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I'd imagine that in a civilized democratic country it would be something along the lines of "Let's make sure there's a fair investigation". That's not what I'm hearing from US.
When I first visited the US on business, HR conducted a training where the key point was that if stopped by police when you're in a car, don't get out of the car, they are trained to shoot first and ask questions later. Mid 90s.
Terrible training and horrible advice. Pennsylvania v Mimms requires you to step out of a vehicle upon LEO command. LEO does not need to provide any justification. Also saying they are trained to shoot first and ask questions later is very hyperbolic. Police conduct over 30 million vehicle stops per year without incident.
If a policeman asks you to get out of your car without justification you can bet they're the sort that are more likely to not be disciplined with their use of force either. Police are always quick to cite this case but generally they're ignorant of what it says, they just mindlessly say "pennsylvania v Mimms" everytime they want to be a dick to someone by inconveniencing them or to incite an arrest of someone they think won't want to leave their car. Look up "Civil Rights Lawyer" online and he even uses PA v Mimms against one officer ordering someone out in a case because their order was unlawful.
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We are all cowards. A dozen people watched their friend murdered and all they did was shout 'murderers' and then back off from helping the corpse when instructed by the people in masks and unmarked cars claiming to be police. I surely wouldn't have been braver, we all saw the consequences of even the meakest assertiveness. Those people are the bravest we have to offer, we are fucked.
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Look at the comment section. Are they all bots? Maybe they are, but if they aren't, trying anything would be a suicide. You would just be labelled a terrorist, and no one would support you.
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It's de facto legal if you'll get away with it. Lon Horiuchi executed (sniped from a distance) an innocent woman holding a child at Ruby Ridge over what was ultimately a missed court date for a crime her husband was acquitted of. He was then promoted and went on to take part in Waco. When he was prosecuted, the feds played jurisdiction games fucking with the case until the case was so cold it was difficult to prosecu…
Illegal but unenforced is still illegal.
de jure legal but enforced is de facto illegal.
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Yep, don't acknowledge the point about current leadership and their rhetoric. Ignore the videos you see online and ignore the picture of blood + brain matter splattered inside the car. I can't tell if you're trolling, an awful person, or just that fucking stupid. Maybe all three.
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It's not just "politicians speech" either, these are leaders in the executive who will bring any charges and are the ones investigating themselves. If they're not professional, and completely lie about the circumstances, how can we expect justice? States can bring charges, I guess, but I'm not going along with "nothing they say matters" idea.
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Lots of convicted criminals were pardoned already. People with connection to January 6 United States Capitol attack are all pardoned, some got promoted. There's something going on with Ghislaine Maxwell's situation too. US just abducted the president of a sovereign country and international law no longer means anything too. The president himself is also a convict. He is also implicated with many sexual assaults(alleg…
I think it may be different because firstly it's clearly murder or an unlawful shooting if you watch the video, and secondly because being shot by a masked officer for trying to drive down the road could happen to pretty much any American so I imagine they'll complain. That doesn't apply to the Jan 6th people or Maxwell - it's not part of people's everyday life.
If someone wants to believe that ICE is the good guys and people protesting ICE are bad, they'll be pretty quick to adopt any narrative that will justify the actions of ICE. You can see that in this very thread.
This might sway a few people, but I really think the Trump "I could shoot someone on 5th avenue" is simply a truth.
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Outside of the pragmatic argument of current-tech limitations for such an implementation, cars should sometimes be a weapon. If all cars were mandated by law to not accelerate when a person is in front of them, doesn't that give carjackers pretty much guaranteed success to confront and forcibly stop their victim before stealing their car, their belongings, or taking their life? Why would I even bother buying a nice c…
So we should have shootings like the one yesterday just because you want to drive a Lamborghini and murder carjackers? Current tech is totally sufficient to implement this. It’s already found in Waymo taxis based on news reports I’ve seen. It probably exists in teslas too, give or take software updates. It seems almost trivial: if someone is a foot in front of the car, disconnect the accelerator or drop to neutral on…
That woman would be raped and murdered in the middle of nowhere if her car disallowed her from making an executive decision for her safety.
Your idea is bad.
When I first visited the US on business, HR conducted a training where the key point was that if stopped by police when you're in a car, don't get out of the car, they are trained to shoot first and ask questions later. Mid 90s.
Terrible training and horrible advice. Pennsylvania v Mimms requires you to step out of a vehicle upon LEO command. LEO does not need to provide any justification. Also saying they are trained to shoot first and ask questions later is very hyperbolic. Police conduct over 30 million vehicle stops per year without incident.
> Police conduct over 30 million vehicle stops per year without incident.
Read the room.
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Illegal but unenforced is still illegal.
de jure illegal but unenforced is de facto legal. de jure legal but enforced is de facto illegal.