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Re: Minneapolis driver shot and killed by ICE

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Post by goatlover »

kcplate wrote: post #137
eleventen wrote: post #119

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Edit: this was a reddit link, but the post was deleted. If you zoom in and slowly scrub the video in the google drive you'll see the same thing though. Clearly shows that, at the moment the officer fires, he is not in front of the vehicle at all. He actually moves FURTHER toward the vehicle and leans over the hood in order to get a better shot. The angle Trump tweeted of course makes it seem like she rammed him, but…

Here is the slowed down and zoomed video. https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/2008976092326203562 Here is what I see in this video… - Officer at driver side window, reaches into vehicle while simultaneously trying to open the door (I cannot fathom why an officer would be reaching in the vehicle and attempting to open the door if he was giving the driver an order to move the vehicle, but perhaps there would be a reason fo…

The ex-FBI agent and police officer I've seen online said you don't stand in front of vehicle, and you don't execute someone for trying to leave the scene. When she backed up she was already turning to get parallel with the road when she went forward. The onlookers who were interviewed thought it was unjustified.

The administration told several lies. First that an officer was in the hospital because they were run over and fired in self defense. Then they said ICE was stuck in the snow and the woman was an agitator who weaponized her vehicle to go after them. Neither of these are true. This has often been the case with ICE incidents.

Re: Minneapolis driver shot and killed by ICE

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Post by jacquesm »

_DeadFred_ wrote: post #135
silexia wrote: post #132

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Did you read this link? This was what a Department of Homeland Security official told NBC News today, about this specific incident. Are you stating DHS who overseas ICE conducted a murder so they could spin far left talking points? Keep justifying the murder of a 37 year old mom of a now orphaned child because it threatens your political position.

That's not why they are justifying it: they are justifying it because if they accept it they have to accept fractional responsibility for outcomes such as these and MAGA does not want anything to do with the negative fall out of their own actions.

Re: Minneapolis driver shot and killed by ICE

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Post by goatlover »

kcplate wrote: post #184
tastyface wrote: post #178

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I am exactly advising a second amendment solution as it was written. An armed force must exist that can bring people like the ICE murderer into custody, and prevent further such incidents from happening in the future. Conventionally, the National Guard would play that role, but they have been illegally coopted by the out-of-control executive.

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Accountability is coming when the Democrats get back in power. Representative Robin Kelly plans to present articles of impeachment for Kristi Noem to the House. Maybe you should listen to what the Minneapolis mayor and Minnesota governor have to say about the killing in their official capacity if you think people online are overreacting.

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Post by perihelions »

potsandpans wrote: post #89
emchammer wrote: post #69

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This link blocks the video with the messages "Sign in to confirm your age" and "This video may be inappropriate for some users.". Why is this current events video blocked when fictional broadcast television programs regularly dramatize people being shot and killed?

Now imagine where we live in a world with digital IDs. "Pull up everyones id that watched the video in the last 24 hours"

They (Google) routinely do that with or without ID laws; they have more than enough PII in the common-case.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39796550 ("Google ordered to identify who watched certain YouTube videos" (380 comments))

(That article does say this kind of "dragnet" search warrant is, in theory, precluded by the US Constitution. One can ask a certain 6-year old child in Minnesota who just their mother to masked constitution-men what that constitution means).

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Post by DaSHacka »

jacquesm wrote: post #189
kcplate wrote: post #118

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Are you really suggesting that an armed federal law enforcement officer doesn’t have the ability to detain someone that they suspect is interfering with one of their operations? You might want to cite some case law here supporting that assertion. They may not be able to charge someone with a traffic infraction but can they detain someone? Absolutely.

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Re: Minneapolis driver shot and killed by ICE

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Post by [deleted] »

emchammer wrote: post #69
andrewinardeer wrote: post #21

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YouTube link to Minnesota Reporter channel: https://youtu.be/K9CJY5p0xz4?si=IGIUoEjnepwER_4f

This link blocks the video with the messages "Sign in to confirm your age" and "This video may be inappropriate for some users.". Why is this current events video blocked when fictional broadcast television programs regularly dramatize people being shot and killed?

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Re: Minneapolis driver shot and killed by ICE

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Post by resumenext »

This was after the alleged attempted ICE ramming in Oakland last year where shots were fired but thankfully nobody died. I think there was a similar incident in LA. It would be great if there were technology to solve this problem. People perceive cars as deadly weapons and open fire and whether it’s good or not people who think they’re going to get smooshed and have a firearm will tend to use it. I didn’t see the one today but there have been enough of these cases that it really begs for a technological solution, like some sort of kill switch (no pun) that halts a vehicle if a person is in front of it. They’d have to make a law to retrofit older vehicles but it seems like something we could engineer fairly cheaply, and it would prevent at least some of these events. Even cases where the person in front of the car aren’t cops, like the guy who drove through the Christmas parade and killed the little kids, or the nazi kid in Charlottesville. Car rammings are becoming a horrible sort of meme. It’s contagious.

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Post by bigyabai »

resumenext wrote: post #199

This was after the alleged attempted ICE ramming in Oakland last year where shots were fired but thankfully nobody died. I think there was a similar incident in LA. It would be great if there were technology to solve this problem. People perceive cars as deadly weapons and open fire and whether it’s good or not people who think they’re going to get smooshed and have a firearm will tend to use it. I didn’t see the one…

> like some sort of kill switch (no pun) that halts a vehicle if a person is in front of it.

That is a horrible and dangerous reaction that does not solve the problem whatsoever. You are typing this comment with your heart, not with your brain.

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