Earlier quoted context omitted.
[flagged]
Why would the officer move in front of a deadly weapon, is he stupid?
> is he stupid?
Well it's ICE, they haven't gotten the real cop training.
Minneapolis driver shot and killed by ICE
111–120 of 426 posts
Re: Minneapolis driver shot and killed by ICE
#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nazis had street fights with socialists and communists for years. They were the first to be purged together with homosexuals, transvestites, handicapped, etc. Media were largely acting like our current media, woefully ineffective and passive reporting on right wing violence. Hitler called then lugenpresse, now its fake news. Resistance continued after that but not in the open, can be seen in the large number of assas…
[flagged]
It's a 25 point policy, and half of it is not exactly the same as Democratic Socialists in the US.
Re: Minneapolis driver shot and killed by ICE
#113There are at least 3 different videos from different angles. Here are all of them. https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Gb_IkGVK7WvsTAXfMvQU... I've watched them all repeatedly. It's clear she was blocked in at the front, trying to pull out, and yielded, waving the ICE vehicles to go around front. They instead got out, needlessly attempted to drag her from her vehicle, and she freaked out and tried to GTFO by turn…
False narrative here. Watch the full length videos. This does not show what happened leading up to the issue. This lady was protesting ICE and physically driving her car into police officers. She refused multiple police orders, then attempted to murder a police officer with her car. She was justifiably shot in self defense.
As is being downvoted for no reason in another post here, ICE broke all training for this type of incident.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/live-blog/minnesota-ice...
Re: Minneapolis driver shot and killed by ICE
#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
They’re trying to claim that she attempted to “run them down” because she clips one of the ICE agents as she drives away.
A trained police officer (following procedure) would have a damned good reason before drawing a weapon (let alone firing.) Approaching someone in a car with a mask on and a gun out is not a good reason to shoot at them. That would terrify just about any citizen, and their reaction to flee would be expected.
They did not follow any training in this incident
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/live-blog/minnesota-ice...
Re: Minneapolis driver shot and killed by ICE
#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nazis had street fights with socialists and communists for years. They were the first to be purged together with homosexuals, transvestites, handicapped, etc. Media were largely acting like our current media, woefully ineffective and passive reporting on right wing violence. Hitler called then lugenpresse, now its fake news. Resistance continued after that but not in the open, can be seen in the large number of assas…
[flagged]
Democratic Rep. Melissa Hortman was assassinated 7 months ago so you're not even close to right about that.
Re: Minneapolis driver shot and killed by ICE
#116There are at least 3 different videos from different angles. Here are all of them. https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Gb_IkGVK7WvsTAXfMvQU... I've watched them all repeatedly. It's clear she was blocked in at the front, trying to pull out, and yielded, waving the ICE vehicles to go around front. They instead got out, needlessly attempted to drag her from her vehicle, and she freaked out and tried to GTFO by turn…
False narrative here. Watch the full length videos. This does not show what happened leading up to the issue. This lady was protesting ICE and physically driving her car into police officers. She refused multiple police orders, then attempted to murder a police officer with her car. She was justifiably shot in self defense.
There is a zoomed in and slowed down video circulating that shows after the driver was told to exit the vehicle that they reversed the vehicle first and then placed the car into drive (when the LEO was directly in front of her car). The driver hit the accelerator hard enough that the tires spun before they finally gained traction and moved the vehicle forward towards the officer. The velocity in which the vehicle began moving before the shots were fired and ultimately slammed into the other vehicles seems to show that the accelerator was not gently pressed by the driver.
Did she panic? Was she given conflicting commands? That is unknown, but the actions of the vehicle itself are consistent with the driver pressing the accelerator to quickly move the vehicle forward when the LEO was directly in front of it.
The circumstances of the overall situation and the position of the vehicle before it was confronted and moved are consistent with someone attempting to block traffic on that street with their vehicle. The actions of the driver are consistent with someone attempting to evade.
Re: Minneapolis driver shot and killed by ICE
#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
False narrative here. Watch the full length videos. This does not show what happened leading up to the issue. This lady was protesting ICE and physically driving her car into police officers. She refused multiple police orders, then attempted to murder a police officer with her car. She was justifiably shot in self defense.
There is a zoomed in and slowed down video circulating that shows after the driver was told to exit the vehicle that they reversed the vehicle first and then placed the car into drive (when the LEO was directly in front of her car). The driver hit the accelerator hard enough that the tires spun before they finally gained traction and moved the vehicle forward towards the officer. The velocity in which the vehicle beg…
[deleted]
Re: Minneapolis driver shot and killed by ICE
#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
Has anyone seen vid of the lead-up? Everything I've seen is clipped to several seconds before the shots are fired. It doesn't justify the outcome but one of the narratives I've seen is she had been blocking the agents for some time.
ICE has no legal ability to detain or arrest citizens or enforce traffic laws. So, regardless, they should have called the police.
Are you really suggesting that an armed federal law enforcement officer doesn’t have the ability to detain someone that they suspect is interfering with one of their operations?
You might want to cite some case law here supporting that assertion. They may not be able to charge someone with a traffic infraction but can they detain someone? Absolutely.
Re: Minneapolis driver shot and killed by ICE
#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
False narrative here. Watch the full length videos. This does not show what happened leading up to the issue. This lady was protesting ICE and physically driving her car into police officers. She refused multiple police orders, then attempted to murder a police officer with her car. She was justifiably shot in self defense.
There is a zoomed in and slowed down video circulating that shows after the driver was told to exit the vehicle that they reversed the vehicle first and then placed the car into drive (when the LEO was directly in front of her car). The driver hit the accelerator hard enough that the tires spun before they finally gained traction and moved the vehicle forward towards the officer. The velocity in which the vehicle beg…
Edit: this was a reddit link, but the post was deleted. If you zoom in and slowly scrub the video in the google drive you'll see the same thing though.
Clearly shows that, at the moment the officer fires, he is not in front of the vehicle at all. He actually moves FURTHER toward the vehicle and leans over the hood in order to get a better shot. The angle Trump tweeted of course makes it seem like she rammed him, but this is the better angle to see the timing. She reverses and cuts it hard right, and he has to lean TOWARD her vehicle.
Re: Minneapolis driver shot and killed by ICE
#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
False narrative here. Watch the full length videos. This does not show what happened leading up to the issue. This lady was protesting ICE and physically driving her car into police officers. She refused multiple police orders, then attempted to murder a police officer with her car. She was justifiably shot in self defense.
There is a zoomed in and slowed down video circulating that shows after the driver was told to exit the vehicle that they reversed the vehicle first and then placed the car into drive (when the LEO was directly in front of her car). The driver hit the accelerator hard enough that the tires spun before they finally gained traction and moved the vehicle forward towards the officer. The velocity in which the vehicle beg…
[dead]