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Re: Minneapolis driver shot and killed by ICE

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https://www.reddit.com/r/UnderReportedNews/comments/1q6to5j/... HuffPost has obtained a video of a physician trying to give medical care to the woman shot and killed by ICE agents today, and not being allowed to go near her. The ICE agents claim there are medics on site, but witnesses scream that there are no medics presentExtensively reported

That makes those ICE officers complicent to her death, because they had no ground for stopping the physician, who might have saved her.

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DHS secretary is calling this "domestic terrorism"... unbelievable. Everyone in the administration needs to be put on trial just like the Nazis in Nuremburg. Also remember the rights reaction to Babbit (an insurrectionist) being shot at the J6 riot. She was a patriot hero for delaying election certification but people resisting ICE goons are domestic terrorists.

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No, the entirety of ICE does. This incident is just the latest in a long series.

This unaccountable Gestapo analogue have, for example, been shown - in Congress - to be raping a whole lot of people. 'Losing' kids. Performing life-altering medical procedures without consent.

It's also worth pointing out that 'both' parties have raised ICE's budget every single year since their creation, including after the above reports were delivered.

Re: Minneapolis driver shot and killed by ICE

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I’m not seeing this discussed very much but Minnesota governor Tim Walz has issued an order to prepare the state’s National Guard: > “To Minnesotans, on the National Guard, they’re there to protect you and protect your constitutional rights,” Walz said. “These are our neighbors. They don’t wear masks. They don’t bust in from somewhere else. They’re not here to cause hassles to you or what we saw today, the tragedy.”…

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I’m not saying that he’s sending the guard after ICE (he doesn’t say that and I’m not suggesting he is saying that). But he is calling the National Guard to “protect” in a condition in which there is another law enforcement agency. The places where the National Guard would be “keeping the peace” are the places where people are protesting against ICE which are places where ICE is conducting raids.

Re: Minneapolis driver shot and killed by ICE

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DHS secretary is calling this "domestic terrorism"... unbelievable. Everyone in the administration needs to be put on trial just like the Nazis in Nuremburg. Also remember the rights reaction to Babbit (an insurrectionist) being shot at the J6 riot. She was a patriot hero for delaying election certification but people resisting ICE goons are domestic terrorists.

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They're all bad.

Re: Minneapolis driver shot and killed by ICE

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There are at least 3 different videos from different angles. Here are all of them. https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Gb_IkGVK7WvsTAXfMvQU... I've watched them all repeatedly. It's clear she was blocked in at the front, trying to pull out, and yielded, waving the ICE vehicles to go around front. They instead got out, needlessly attempted to drag her from her vehicle, and she freaked out and tried to GTFO by turn…

False narrative here. Watch the full length videos. This does not show what happened leading up to the issue. This lady was protesting ICE and physically driving her car into police officers. She refused multiple police orders, then attempted to murder a police officer with her car. She was justifiably shot in self defense.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, the comment above is now flagged and dead . Doesn't that mean the mods killed someone's comment solely for giving their opinion on the state of their own country? EDIT: And [dead] removed now. Fascinating. I checked the unofficial guide on GitHub again to confirm my understanding: https://github.com/minimaxir/hacker-news-undocumented#flaggi... > A [dead] submission (that does not also show [flagged]) is kille…

I saw your comment, vouched for the comment you're referring to, and it reappeared. I don't have a full understanding of how vouching works; it could be that I was one of several, or that it was only coincidental that it reappeared just after I vouched for it.

Thanks for bringing my comment back online.

Re: Minneapolis driver shot and killed by ICE

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There are at least 3 different videos from different angles. Here are all of them. https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Gb_IkGVK7WvsTAXfMvQU... I've watched them all repeatedly. It's clear she was blocked in at the front, trying to pull out, and yielded, waving the ICE vehicles to go around front. They instead got out, needlessly attempted to drag her from her vehicle, and she freaked out and tried to GTFO by turn…

One thing that I, and many others, have issue with is the fact that the agents are masked, which makes it hard to hold specific actors accountable. With the way they've been deploying facial recognition against citizens, I feel like using it against ICE agents would just be sousveillance.

Especially with the second video, it seems like there should be enough footage of the guy's face to figure it out. Ideally her relatives could then SUE, but qualified immunity is some powerful bullshit. At the very least, maybe we could track bad actors. Does the guy regularly use unnecessary force?

The counter argument is "if you DOX people, especially unpopular people, they'll be subject to death threats, possible violence, etc. and you'll be partially responsible", but man, it's obvious that the agency itself isn't holding its people accountable. I'd want to know if he was in my city, still performing ICE activities.

Re: Minneapolis driver shot and killed by ICE

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I’m not seeing this discussed very much but Minnesota governor Tim Walz has issued an order to prepare the state’s National Guard: > “To Minnesotans, on the National Guard, they’re there to protect you and protect your constitutional rights,” Walz said. “These are our neighbors. They don’t wear masks. They don’t bust in from somewhere else. They’re not here to cause hassles to you or what we saw today, the tragedy.”…

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Re: Minneapolis driver shot and killed by ICE

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well that’s been the republican strategy for decades now. They only succeed by lying. The good news is that the country is still split pretty evenly 50/50. I don’t know German history very well but I don’t remember hearing that non-Nazis were loudly opposing the Nazis. Time will tell how this all shakes out but I’m mentally preparing myself for the worst case scenario.

Nazis had street fights with socialists and communists for years. They were the first to be purged together with homosexuals, transvestites, handicapped, etc. Media were largely acting like our current media, woefully ineffective and passive reporting on right wing violence. Hitler called then lugenpresse, now its fake news. Resistance continued after that but not in the open, can be seen in the large number of assas…

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Re: Minneapolis driver shot and killed by ICE

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There are at least 3 different videos from different angles. Here are all of them. https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Gb_IkGVK7WvsTAXfMvQU... I've watched them all repeatedly. It's clear she was blocked in at the front, trying to pull out, and yielded, waving the ICE vehicles to go around front. They instead got out, needlessly attempted to drag her from her vehicle, and she freaked out and tried to GTFO by turn…

One thing that I, and many others, have issue with is the fact that the agents are masked, which makes it hard to hold specific actors accountable. With the way they've been deploying facial recognition against citizens, I feel like using it against ICE agents would just be sousveillance. Especially with the second video, it seems like there should be enough footage of the guy's face to figure it out. Ideally her rel…

> Ideally her relatives could then SUE

Ideally a lawsuit? The only sane outcome of this in a civilized society is that the perpetrator stands trial for murder.

If that does not happen the already slim distinction between US law enforcement and a paramilitary execution squad loyal to the president will have dissappeared entirely.

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