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Re: Odoo: Open-Source ERP

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Post by majewsky »

pinky07 wrote: post #37
firekvz wrote: post #9

Open core, not open source, only for the Community edition, wait till you notice that you will need enterprise license since most powerfull features/addons are enterprise only and you end up paying more money for "open source" ERP than normal ERP

> you end up paying more money for "open source" ERP than normal ERP That's not what I see on the market. Even the paying version of Odoo is way more affordable than traditional ERP: - licenses are 5x lower than competition: https://www.odoo.com/pricing (avg 25€/user/month vs 180€ for Netsuite - Odoo has a "no-extra" / transparent pricing policy) - On implementation service fees, Odoo is usually from 30% to 75% cheap…

> Disclaimer: I am the founder of Odoo.

Oh hey, it's my favorite pet peeve. When flagging a potential conflict of interest, the word is "Disclosure". "Disclaimer" means "I'm just a random guy who cannot assume responsibility for what they're saying", like in IANAL.

Re: Odoo: Open-Source ERP

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Post by infogulch »

pinky07 wrote: post #57
furtfight wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it possible to pay to have an Odoo employee execute the migration script on the on premise server? I remember I heard about that but I don't know if it's still an option.

We have done a few exceptions (e.g. Defense departments), but we usually refuse if not really justified.

These approaches should be completely flipped, the default should be your upgrade engineers get remote access to the customer's database (vpn, etc) and run the standardized and ad-hoc upgrade scripts on their system. Shipping the customer's data back and forth for every upgrade is absurd and a privacy nightmare.

Re: Odoo: Open-Source ERP

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Post by cdurth »

nicornk wrote: post #19
elric wrote: post #17

I've built a couple of Odoo integrations for clients. For the longest time, they only offered XML-RPC as an external API. At some point they also added JSON-RPC, which is the same kind of suckage. But now they're suddenly planning to remove both in the next major version (to replace them with something different) with very little advance notice. Their API documentation is virtually nonexistent. You have to basically…

In that sense all popular ERP vendors seems to be the same.

Yup, came here to offer the same sentiment on the SMB ERP systems I've worked with.

Re: Odoo: Open-Source ERP

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Post by RaftPeople »

pinky07 wrote: post #37
firekvz wrote: post #9

Open core, not open source, only for the Community edition, wait till you notice that you will need enterprise license since most powerfull features/addons are enterprise only and you end up paying more money for "open source" ERP than normal ERP

> you end up paying more money for "open source" ERP than normal ERP That's not what I see on the market. Even the paying version of Odoo is way more affordable than traditional ERP: - licenses are 5x lower than competition: https://www.odoo.com/pricing (avg 25€/user/month vs 180€ for Netsuite - Odoo has a "no-extra" / transparent pricing policy) - On implementation service fees, Odoo is usually from 30% to 75% cheap…

> That's not what I see on the market. Even the paying version of Odoo is way more affordable than traditional ERP:

The system looks well organized and clearly built by people with knowledge of the domain(s), but traditional ERP has significantly more depth in functionality, I don't think that comparison makes sense at this point in time.

Re: Odoo: Open-Source ERP

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Post by toastal »

LaurentD_Eldy wrote: post #50
ofrzeta wrote: post #8

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Because no one knows it. Are you using it?

Dolibarr is used by 1 million of users (so not as much as Odoo with 16m users). Similar to Odoo in a lot of point but full opensource, more affordable than Odoo and easier to use and customize. Has less external addons (1200 vs 40000) than Odoo but external addons are rarely required. Odoo would be a better choice if you have a very large company with an internal team of developper, Dolibarr will be easier and cheape…

That is very good insight. Thank you. I recently added H2O+PostgreSQL support for the NixOS module & it has been running fine for me. I had a bit of a hard time assessing the open source options but Dolibarr using PHP meant it was probably going to perform consistently & better than Python or Node.js-based ones rather than trying to contrast their featuresets, not having much domain knowledge about ERP/CRMs.

Re: Odoo: Open-Source ERP

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Post by romrik »

infogulch wrote: post #62
pinky07 wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We have done a few exceptions (e.g. Defense departments), but we usually refuse if not really justified.

These approaches should be completely flipped, the default should be your upgrade engineers get remote access to the customer's database (vpn, etc) and run the standardized and ad-hoc upgrade scripts on their system. Shipping the customer's data back and forth for every upgrade is absurd and a privacy nightmare.

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Re: Odoo: Open-Source ERP

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Post by abysmal »

pinky07 wrote: post #24

I am the founder of Odoo: ask me anything. Happy to see Odoo on HN.

Are there ways being open source has contributed to Odoo's success beyond the obvious stuff like extensibility and ability to self-host?

Especially in a category like ERP that has a big integrator and reseller ecosystem.

Re: Odoo: Open-Source ERP

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Post by abysmal »

pinky07 wrote: post #31
number6 wrote: post #26

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How close is Odoo to the Django Stack? In my mind, since both are python, I always thought it was some kind of Django fork,l. I bet I am wrong. So how came Odoo into being?

It's not a fork of Django, even thought the stack has similarities: Python, ORM on top of Postgresql, Modules. We use werkzeug (it's been a long time I checked Django, not sure they are on it too), but the rest of the stack is Odoo's own framework: ORM, Templating (QWeb), API, etc. But it's not comparable to Django: - Odoo is built for management application: think CRM, Accounting, Project Management, ... a strong ba…

If you were building Odoo for the first time today would you still choose python? Would you use it the same way?
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