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All AI Videos Are Harmful (2025)

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Re: All AI Videos Are Harmful (2025)

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When mass voting patterns change because they’re being influenced by AI it will affect you

Thats really why governments are "racing" and backstopping the AI effort, its the most powerful propaganda tool ever invented.

You’re right, it is the most powerful propaganda tool.

However, most western governments have checks and balances to stop the abuse

Its billionaires and adversary states using the tools to subvert the west

Re: All AI Videos Are Harmful (2025)

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One of the arguments I keep seeing from people churning out AI video is that the tech is enabling people "creative freedom" that's been made possible now even without the technical know how. However, 99% of the the "creativity" from what I've seen is done by the AI (how it should look, where the cuts need to happen, the tone, color grading, etc). Which is to say, it's taken from other people's (creative) work. While…

I think there is some tenuous analog between today's AI, and yesteryear's music synthesizers and "modern art". Regarding music, I understand synthesizers were created to mimic real instruments, whereas artists used its capabilities not to mimic, but to create entirely new sounds. My limited understanding of modern art (and without a search I don't distinguish between expressionism, impressionism or any other isms bec…

I don’t agree with your music synthesizer analogy. I own a synthesizer, however I don’t possess any musical talent whatsoever. I cannot for the life of me produce anything remotely listenable from the thing. I know how to use it, but cannot make good music. You just need to look at some street performer banging on a plastic bucket and entertaining a circle of people to realise that the ability to make music is orthogonal to having the right tools.

AI art is more like me pressing the demo button on the synth, looking you in the eye as it plays the preset tune and saying “I made this”

Re: All AI Videos Are Harmful (2025)

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Did cryptography or Toy story 3D animation make every human need to question the reality of any electronic audio or video they encounter, no matter how realistic? Did cryptography make me have to train my parents not to trust my own voice if I make strange asks like money? There is a lot more to do for each other as a society to adjust to the new normal of AI, than just complain. Awareness and realignment are critica…

>cryptography cryptography enables spies, terrorists, criminals, and dissidents to communicate over any network with absolute impunity. if it was feasible, every government in the world would have banned or "regulated" it, as some had attempted to. but in the end, they had conceded defeat, and the world had not ended. >make every human need to question the reality of any electronic audio or video they encounter, no m…

I disagree with your final assertion. Completely or nearly-completely undetectable reproductions of reality, and specific human voices with intonation and generative vocabulary, have not been widely available before now to anyone with the will.

Re: All AI Videos Are Harmful (2025)

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There are a bunch of these scifi world building short video channels now. IMO they all seem really creative initially but rapidly lose their luster and become repetitive. Sora makes the hard parts easy and the easy parts hard. I don't think any of these content producers will be remembered in the future. :/

More than half of my YouTube subscriptions are channels that once posted neat stuff and stopped - and most of them are from years ago. And before that i was into webcomics back when they were a popular online trend, i was following the updates of several of them and most of them have disappeared these days (and i don't even remember their names). People stop doing things all the time, i'm not sure that means much.

what does any of that have to do with my comment?

Re: All AI Videos Are Harmful (2025)

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I was involved in a conversation about cheating in video games the other day, and the topic shifted to AI use in music. Someone said, "using AI is like using an aimbot for music." I absolutely love that comparison since it highlights the shortcut past creativity/skill to get a computerized best result while also associating it with blatant cheating. The "enables creativity" argument is ironic since the root of the wo…

I made my wife a song about how we met using Suno. It took me about 4 hours to get the lyrics just right, rewriting them (without AI help, it’s terrible with lyrics), plugging them in, seeing how they sounded, fixing them some more to get the verse so it sounded right. She thought it was really special and she cried as we listened to it while holding hands in the car. I can’t play guitar, and I can’t hit some notes w…

It's more like going into a video game and tuning the difficulty all the way down so you are virtually invincible. It's taking the fun out of the game for some, but for others that's the only way to play it.

Re: All AI Videos Are Harmful (2025)

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The purpose of music is (usually) to touch people emotionally. If it works, it works. Doesn't matter how it was made. There is no cheating when there is feeling. Generic AI music so far does not touch me. I might tolerate it in the background, but I know there is great music being made with the help of AI. (Which is different from letting the AI do it all) An aimbot in competive playing is indeed cheating and sucks t…

AI music models are a tool. They're only as good as the person doing the steering and curation. I am a filmmaker. I have made photons-on-glass films for decades. I have always wanted to make big-budget sci-fi and fantasy films, as have my friends and colleges who went to film school. The barrier to entry is almost impossible to climb. Most of my friends wound up in IATSE or doing commercial work, but never had the ch…

As a longtime musician, I fervently believe in doing the best you can with the tools you have.

As a programmer with a philosophical bent, I have thought a lot about the implications and ethics of toolmaking.

I concluded long before genAI was available that it is absolutely possible to build tools that dehumanize the users and damage the world around them.

It seems to me that LLMs do that to an unprecedented degree.

Is it possible to use them to help you make worthwhile, human-focused output?

Sure, I'd accept that's possible.

Are the tools inherently inclined in the opposite direction?

It sure looks that way to me.

Should every tool be embraced and accepted?

I don't think so. In the limit, I'm relieved governments keep a monopoly on nuclear weapons.

The people saying "All AI is bad" may not be nuanced or careful in what they say, but in my experience, they've understood rightly that you can't get any of genAI's upsides without the overwhelming flood of horrific downsides, and they think that's a very bad tradeoff.

I agree with them.

Re: All AI Videos Are Harmful (2025)

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I have an idea for a movie. Its kind of an epic idea - more about the characters, story and the feeling. I want to get the idea across as close as possible to what is in my head. AI has given me the opportunity to do it. I just have to keep prompting to get the exact feeling and I can share my idea. I don't like these curmudgeonly takes.. I'm sure this "All AI Videos Are Harmful" take will age just like how "All vide…

> I don't like these curmudgeonly takes

me neither. I think there's a real sense of concern, but that people are also just being contrarian or are maybe acting out of a concern for their job or something. Seems like a lot of people have had the opposite experience, that a lot of AI vids are not harmful but have in a lot of cases been funny or helpful. People need time to experiment with the tech and see what impact it has on society before they adjust their expectations to its real impact.

Re: All AI Videos Are Harmful (2025)

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One of the arguments I keep seeing from people churning out AI video is that the tech is enabling people "creative freedom" that's been made possible now even without the technical know how. However, 99% of the the "creativity" from what I've seen is done by the AI (how it should look, where the cuts need to happen, the tone, color grading, etc). Which is to say, it's taken from other people's (creative) work. While…

Yes, 99% of people are uncreative and use the creative freedom this way. Besides, many truly creative people won't even touch it, some because of the ethics and others because it's not up to their standard yet. Does it really look surprising to you?

>AI video isn't "enabling people to be more creative," it is quite literally removing creativity from the process all together.

That's quite a leap of thought and doesn't follow from the first part at all.

Re: All AI Videos Are Harmful (2025)

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Can’t compete in what way? Popularity? Views? Revenue? Profitability? Reader satisfaction? Sometimes a website that looks like shit does its job better than one that is finely crafted. Berkshire Hathaway has a text only website with no CSS at all.

> Sometimes a website that looks like shit does its job better than one that is finely crafted. It even better if it looks good and works well. You can make sites that do both.

If I have $500,000 I can buy a car that’s meticulously hand-crafted with hand-stitched leathers and fine woods in the interior with an engine built by hand by a single person.

But I just need to get from point A to point B so I have a $10,000 used car.

Re: All AI Videos Are Harmful (2025)

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AI generated videos are being used in more and more ads. To cut costs I’m sure. The result is that ads that were just annoying are now terrible and jarring. When I hear talk about AI risks I mostly hear things like runaway super intelligence doing whatever it wants and leaving humanity in the lurch. But what about more realistic concerns, like accelerating the race to the bottom by cheaply and poorly ripping off othe…

A local window blinds company ran an ad before a movie. Clearly AI. Besides the obvious fake humans, how can I trust that the AI blinds in your ad match your real product?
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