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Re: Linux is good now

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Post by kaoD »

ndriscoll wrote: post #719
kaoD wrote: post #608

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly 20 years ago I was both a competitive CS player and I also liked reverse engineering so I was somewhat interested in the cheating community and even programmed a custom injector and cheat for CS (it was surprisingly easy if you knew a bit about Windows APIs). Cheats were a problem. Not even a nascent problem, but already established. Bad enough that VAC was released in 2002, Punkbuster in 2000... In competiti…

Competitive gaming cannot possibly be huge. Like literally it is impossible for 99% of gamers to be competitive in any meaningful sense (if you play a game with 1M players and are in the top 1%, congrats, there are 10,000 people who are better than you. You are still unremarkable). It never was huge; it was just a niche you were in. There's massively more people that are just playing the game too blow off steam.

> in any meaningful sense

Who said anything about meaning? People being shit at the game invalidates that the game ruleset is competitive?

Re: Linux is good now

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Post by undeveloper »

ruszki wrote: post #696
Cort3z wrote: post #572

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I have been working professionally on Linux for many years. But about once a year I have to reinstall the os because it craps out for various reasons. The same story goes for most of my team, but for some reason they seem ok with this. My issue with Linux is this: I don’t feel like a consumer, but a janitor. I don’t want this. Yes you can do whatever you want, but I don’t want to do those things. I want to write code…

> janitor Perfect analogy. I'm using Debian for a few months now on my main laptop, and everything is flawed. Seriously, everything. - Hybrid graphics simply doesn't work. The exception is when it works. Don't even try Wayland with it. - Graphics card handling is still full with race conditions. It's random when everything works as intended without manual intervention. - Switching monitors is pain. Sometimes works, s…

I personally have had a better experience with printers on linux than windows, but again it's always a gamble. I get it.

Re: Linux is good now

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Post by Cort3z »

energy123 wrote: post #665
Cort3z wrote: post #572

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I have been working professionally on Linux for many years. But about once a year I have to reinstall the os because it craps out for various reasons. The same story goes for most of my team, but for some reason they seem ok with this. My issue with Linux is this: I don’t feel like a consumer, but a janitor. I don’t want this. Yes you can do whatever you want, but I don’t want to do those things. I want to write code…

LLMs have made it so much easier thankfully. The janitorial overhead was a nightmare pre-2024.

Shameless self promotion, but I 80% vibe- coded a pip package for interfacing with LLMs right from the terminal. ‘pip install lask’. It has helped me a lot since it works from the terminal regardless of what the graphics drivers are doing.

Re: Linux is good now

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Post by user34283 »

tuetuopay wrote: post #687
user34283 wrote: post #676

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To each their own, but Windows 11 runs flawlessly on my machine with high-end specs and a 240 Hz monitor. The Start menu works great with no lag, even immediately after booting. The only thing that I consider annoying would be the 'Setup' screens that sometimes show up after bigger updates. --- Would I trade it all to get on Bazzite DX: - lower game compatibility and potential bugs - subpar NVIDIA drivers with the ri…

Considering I found the win10 start menu too slow, the w11 one does not stand a chance. But I'm hopeful from your comment, it shows that w11 is not the complete shitshow people make it to be, though the few times I used it on relatives computers I found it not responsive enough. I'm testing daily-drive on my main rig (high-end from a few years ago, 5900x + 3090), and honestly I'm rediscovering my computer. A combinat…

The start menu seems to respond instantly for me.

That's on a 7950X3D with 64 GB RAM and a Samsung 990 Pro SSD. Maybe it performs worse on slower hardware.

I have 14 TB of SSDs connected, so it's not like there is no content on my PC.

Notably I don't have any HDDs connected, maybe that plays a role here.

Re: Linux is good now

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Post by zapnuk »

vladms wrote: post #607
kderbe wrote: post #550

Steve Burke from GamersNexus tested eight games from their benchmark suite on Linux last month. Although his conclusion was generally positive, there were problems with nearly every game: - F1 2024 didn't load due to anti-cheat - Dragon's Dogma 2 and Resident Evil 4 had non-functional raytracing - Cyberpunk 2077 with raytracing on consistently crashes when reloading a save game - Dying Light 2 occasionally freezes fo…

> Baldur's Gate 3 Linux build is a slideshow on Nvidia cards I played Baldur's Gate 3 on Linux on a GeForce GTX 1060 (which is almost 10 years old!) without a fan (I found later that it was broken) and I generally did not have issues (couple of times in the whole game slowed for couple of seconds, but nothing major).

Thats the whole problem. No consistency. Some configurations work, others not - eventhough they should be way more capable.

That's not even limited to linux or gaming. A few weeks ago i tried to apply the latest Windows update to my 2018 lenovo thinkpad. It complained about insufficient space (had 20GB free). I then used a usb as swap (required by windows) and tried to install the update. Gave up after 1 hour without progress...

Hardware+OS really seems unfixable in some cases. I'm 100% getting a macbook next time. At least with Apple I can schedule a support appointment.

Re: Linux is good now

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Post by kwar13 »

kentonv wrote: post #242

I switched all the machines at https://lanparty.house over to Linux a couple months ago. So far, we've experienced noticeably fewer problems on Linux compared to Windows. Stability and performance are better. I can't think of one game we tried that didn't work. And wow is it nice not to have all the ads and crapware in our faces anymore. (I'm aware that Battlefield series and League of Legends won't work due to draco…

Hey man can I be your friend? That is a super sick setup and I love how you've done it!

Re: Linux is good now

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Post by Biganon »

arcfour wrote: post #520
Biganon wrote: post #228

I'm tired of people saying Steam on Linux just works. It doesn't. Tried running Worms: instant crash, no error message. Tried running Among Us: instant crash, had to add cryptic arguments to the command line to get it to run. Tried running Parkitect: crashes after 5 minutes. These three games are extremely simple, graphically speaking. They don't use any complicated anti-cheat measure. This shouldn't be complicated,…

> And of course, as always, those for which it works will tell you you're doing-it-wrong™ . This sounds like you are rejecting help because you have made up your mind in frustration already. Because you are doing it wrong. If you want an OS that just works , you should use Ubuntu or Fedora. Why is SteamOS based on Arch then? Because Valve wants to tweak things in it and tinker with it themselves to get it how they li…

I've been using Arch for 15 years, it's not like I'm suddenly discovering the concept of the distro.

But when something crashes with no error message whatsoever, it makes it a tiny bit harder to troubleshoot.

Especially when so many people answer, just like I had predicted, "works on my machine". Which would only be a gotcha if I had implied it worked on no machine whatsoever. Which I didn't.

I'll tinker some more and I'll be sure to post my findings if I get these games to work.

Re: Linux is good now

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Post by ToucanLoucan »

aqme28 wrote: post #409
kentonv wrote: post #242

I switched all the machines at https://lanparty.house over to Linux a couple months ago. So far, we've experienced noticeably fewer problems on Linux compared to Windows. Stability and performance are better. I can't think of one game we tried that didn't work. And wow is it nice not to have all the ads and crapware in our faces anymore. (I'm aware that Battlefield series and League of Legends won't work due to draco…

On a similar note, performance is sometimes better. As a direct comparison, the steam version of the Lenovos Legion S handheld is significantly more performant than the windows version. Like 20% better FPS and double the battery life. Literally the only difference between the two is the OS.

I might have to look into this for my ROG Ally X... it already runs pretty beastily but I'm never going to complain about better performance...

Edit: though, I'd have to give up my Fallout 4 with mods. (Don't judge me I know it sucks but it makes the dopamine go brrr)

Re: Linux is good now

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Post by realusername »

ruszki wrote: post #696
Cort3z wrote: post #572

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have been working professionally on Linux for many years. But about once a year I have to reinstall the os because it craps out for various reasons. The same story goes for most of my team, but for some reason they seem ok with this. My issue with Linux is this: I don’t feel like a consumer, but a janitor. I don’t want this. Yes you can do whatever you want, but I don’t want to do those things. I want to write code…

> janitor Perfect analogy. I'm using Debian for a few months now on my main laptop, and everything is flawed. Seriously, everything. - Hybrid graphics simply doesn't work. The exception is when it works. Don't even try Wayland with it. - Graphics card handling is still full with race conditions. It's random when everything works as intended without manual intervention. - Switching monitors is pain. Sometimes works, s…

I think Bluetooth and printers are broken on pretty much every OS (especially on old devices), I certainly didn't have a better experience on Windows, it's maybe even worse.
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