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2025 was a disaster for Windows 11

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Re: 2025 was a disaster for Windows 11

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Post by DANmode »

olyjohn wrote: post #104
pdntspa wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who is actually shelling out $200 for Windows specifically? It's perceptually free if you bought it with your PC. And it's actually free if you took advantage of the free upgrade offer. I've picked up a few licenses off MacHeist for like $10

The cost is rolled into your PC when you buy it. Its not free. Your $10 licenses are not legal. Sorry. Those are sketchy grey market keys. Though Microsoft likely won't go after you for it, so I'm not sure it matters. You should have just saved the $10 and downloaded a cracked copy.

You’d rather have an unofficial ISO?

Why?

Re: 2025 was a disaster for Windows 11

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Post by ksynwa »

For me the strange and unproductive direction Windows is going towards in encapsulated in the right-click menu in the file manager (Explorer). 11 has a shiny new menu that shows up when you right click. But it is a new coat of paint over the ones from 10 or before. Additional options from for example 7zip don't show up in it. You have to click "more options" at the bottom which them reveals the old menu. There is no benefit to the new menu except for the fact that it is aesthetically more "modern" to its detriment.

Re: 2025 was a disaster for Windows 11

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Post by newsoftheday »

trinix912 wrote: post #69
samiv wrote: post #54

I've been preaching this for a while but the era of PC as in "personal computing" is coming to an end and will slowly but surely be replaced with CC, Corporate Computing, where the corporations own everything, the hardware, the software and only permit you to use their equipment against a monthly fee and only to the extent they allow and permit. Everything you do will be controlled and observed and extracted for data…

So basically rented mainframes like IBM did in the '60s but with ads? I agree about free software but that only works as long as the hardware doesn't get too closed down. At some point even reverse engineering won't keep up with it. We need more free/libre hardware.

Imagine all buildings in New York replaced with mainframes, people living and working inside the mainframes. An Ad on every wall, every floor, internal and external. Actually it sounds kind of cool.

Re: 2025 was a disaster for Windows 11

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Post by rpgbr »

p_ing wrote: post #116
slekker wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To add they want to rewrite Windows in Rust with AI, which I can only assume they hope will keep the software quality up but I doubt it

It's unfortunate that falsehoods spread so quickly. https://www.windowslatest.com/2025/12/24/microsoft-denies-re... > “It appears my post generated far more attention than I intended… with a lot of speculative reading between the lines.. Just to clarify… Windows is NOT being rewritten in Rust with AI. > My team’s project is a research project. [...]

I don’t believe for a second that it was a mistake. Probably got a call from some C-level and came up with this excuse.

Re: 2025 was a disaster for Windows 11

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Post by handsclean »

pdntspa wrote: post #84
areoform wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is incredibly user hostile. And it's not even free. This is an ecosystem you pay for. They're treating folks shelling out $200 for an OS as if they were cattle on the adtech train.

Who is actually shelling out $200 for Windows specifically? It's perceptually free if you bought it with your PC. And it's actually free if you took advantage of the free upgrade offer. I've picked up a few licenses off MacHeist for like $10

> perceptually free

Bizarre phrase. If you think mandatory bundling is free stuff then your perception is not very good.

Re: 2025 was a disaster for Windows 11

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Post by runako »

awesan wrote: post #29

I installed Linux (an arch-based distro) last month. There have been some minor issues but nothing worse than what I experienced regularly on Windows recently. My computer feels fast again and when things randomly break I can at least get to the root cause and fix it myself. I used to quite like Windows, but it has gotten worse every patch day for years now. The pain of learning a new system is not so bad and at leas…

> My computer feels fast again

A while back (Win XP?), I got frustrated with Windows and installed Linux on my dev machine instead. But I still had to run Windows, so I installed VMWare on Linux on that machine and ran Windows in a VM. For whatever reason, Windows was noticeably faster in the VM than running on bare metal. Super bizarre OS.

Re: 2025 was a disaster for Windows 11

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Post by utopiah »

ACCount37 wrote: post #65
yoyohello13 wrote: post #20

Microsoft in 2025: We fired a bunch of engineers and mandated AI usage. 90% of our code is now generated by AI. Also Microsoft in 2025: Record setting bugs and anti-features released. Case study in code quantity is not equal to code quality.

The relation is tangential at best. Microsoft's management was a personification of corporate rot for a long while now, AI or no AI. They view Windows as a straw to suck users into their higher value products through, and are seemingly unaware of what "UX" is, or how their decisions affect it. Which is how Windows 11 ended up being such a clusterfuck.

> The relation is tangential at best. Microsoft's management was a personification of corporate rot for a long while now, AI or no AI.

Is it though? Wouldn't you expect "personification of corporate rot" to precisely jump on whatever trendy bandwagon there is to make a quick buck, regardless of consequences, then move on?

Re: 2025 was a disaster for Windows 11

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Post by Glawen »

ksynwa wrote: post #142

For me the strange and unproductive direction Windows is going towards in encapsulated in the right-click menu in the file manager (Explorer). 11 has a shiny new menu that shows up when you right click. But it is a new coat of paint over the ones from 10 or before. Additional options from for example 7zip don't show up in it. You have to click "more options" at the bottom which them reveals the old menu. There is no…

Nice to mention that this new menu takes ages to appear, on my computer I can wait 5s until it is rendered and I can finally click on more options...
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