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2025 was a disaster for Windows 11

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Re: 2025 was a disaster for Windows 11

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Post by areoform »

throwway120385 wrote: post #50
areoform wrote: post #10

I'm a macos / linux user who bought a second-hand windows PC last year for CAD and games. Windows 11 is worse than you think it is. It's worse than the data harvesting (which required two hours to turn off), irritating ads (for an OS you pay for) and generally schizophrenic UX (don't get me started on the Start menu). The Windows team has gone far beyond typical bugs. They're introducing new classes of bugs; one day…

I think if Dassault et. al. released a version of their software for Linux or Mac OS then the only excuse I have left to boot Windows would be gone completely. Hell even if it worked somewhat reliably as a viewer on Valve's Proton I'd be happy.

How did you get used to Solidworks, btw? Any advice? It's an awful experience.

Re: 2025 was a disaster for Windows 11

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Post by bigyabai »

areoform wrote: post #30
bigyabai wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's hoping that Apple can correct-course from this path. Last time I daily-drove macOS (Sequoia) it was pushing adverts in my face with every native app I launched.

I spend 8 hours a day on Sequoia and I haven't seen any adverts in any native app?

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/251488227

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/250786208

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/254431520

  Having talked to Apple Support, there is no way to disable the pop-up permanently due to Apple's Promotional Policy.

Re: 2025 was a disaster for Windows 11

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Post by Zetaphor »

fcq wrote: post #5
JoeAltmaier wrote: post #4

Once they move product testing to the Engineering group charged with releasing the product, it was inevitable that Release would take priority over Exhaustive Test. Even if bugs surfaced during their sketchy testing, the group would be pressed to release anyway, to meet schedule. This is obvious to anyone. The management at Microsoft was naive or ignorant to make this process change, take your pick.

It is baffling how sluggish windows explorer has become, same with the start menu... Even worse that there are no end-user settings to turn down what makes both suck... you have to run hacks, tweak registry keys in order to have it working ~normally~

Windows users: Linux is too complicated, you have to configure too much stuff and eww command line

Also Windows users: I downloaded this massive collection of registry tweaks and PowerShell scripts that I have to run as admin after every update to undo whatever fresh fuckery Microsoft just forced on me. And there's no guarantee that it won't all be undone with the next update.

I'm being facetious to make a point, but it's always amused me how much effort you have to expend just to keep a moderately sane experience.

Software should adapt to the user, not the other way around.

Re: 2025 was a disaster for Windows 11

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Post by bgwalter »

It is clear that Nadella has no clue what he is doing in 2025 and just wants to make another big splash with "AI".

If you force employees to dedicate 100% of their thinking power to agents, prompts, "AI" meetings, working on their necessarily fake "AI" success stories and "impacts", no one has time to do real work. Or have any real new ideas about anything else.

But Nadella doubles down and goes into "startup mode":

https://www.ft.com/content/255dbecc-5c57-4928-824f-b3f2d764f...

Not only Windows 11 got worse, Github got worse, too. So did the free Copilot.

Re: 2025 was a disaster for Windows 11

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Post by ACCount37 »

yoyohello13 wrote: post #20

Microsoft in 2025: We fired a bunch of engineers and mandated AI usage. 90% of our code is now generated by AI. Also Microsoft in 2025: Record setting bugs and anti-features released. Case study in code quantity is not equal to code quality.

The relation is tangential at best. Microsoft's management was a personification of corporate rot for a long while now, AI or no AI.

They view Windows as a straw to suck users into their higher value products through, and are seemingly unaware of what "UX" is, or how their decisions affect it. Which is how Windows 11 ended up being such a clusterfuck.

Re: 2025 was a disaster for Windows 11

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Post by JasonSage »

Aurornis wrote: post #46
callc wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The last 3 generations of nvidia gpus have been a big middle finger to PC gamers in terms of price and power usage Gone are the days of affordable graphics accelerators in the $300 to $500 range. Now it’s $1000 to $2000. 400 watts now instead of 100.

> Gone are the days of affordable graphics accelerators in the $300 to $500 range. Now it’s $1000 to $2000. What are you talking about? nVidia only has two models in the $1000 to $2000 range and they’re clearly premium parts. The $300 to $500 cards are actually fine for normal gaming unless you demand to play at 4K at high settings.

You're right.

People want to pretend fundamentals of economics don't exist AND the company has moral obligations to fulfill to consumers. It's laughable.

It's not just nVidia, I've seen other expensive consumer brands getting the same sentiments.

Re: 2025 was a disaster for Windows 11

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Post by Aurornis »

I did a clean install of Windows 11 when Windows 10 went EOL. From all of the complaints I was hearing from headlines I expected a disastrous experience.

But to be honest, it’s been fine. I’m not a heavy user but I switch to the Windows PC at least once a day for a few hours of CAD, gaming, and one other engineering program that is Windows only.

I don’t click any of the AI buttons. I declined the OneDrive or backup sync or whatever it was and it’s gone. I don’t use the built-in email client or the other features this article complains about and I don’t feel like I’m missing anything.

The centered start menu isn’t my favorite, but it’s not like it’s unusable. I didn’t find it difficult to adjust the interface and hide things I didn’t like in the first few minutes.

On the other hand, my experience with the latest macOS and iOS 26 has been incredibly frustrating. I’m almost to the point where my basic apps have worked around new macOS bugs. My iOS phone is stuttering and laggy for unclear reasons and searches show I’m not alone. I didn’t expect my Windows 11 PC, of all things, to be the smooth sailing computing experience in my house but so far that’s how it’s looking going into 2026.

Re: 2025 was a disaster for Windows 11

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Post by trinix912 »

samiv wrote: post #54

I've been preaching this for a while but the era of PC as in "personal computing" is coming to an end and will slowly but surely be replaced with CC, Corporate Computing, where the corporations own everything, the hardware, the software and only permit you to use their equipment against a monthly fee and only to the extent they allow and permit. Everything you do will be controlled and observed and extracted for data…

So basically rented mainframes like IBM did in the '60s but with ads?

I agree about free software but that only works as long as the hardware doesn't get too closed down. At some point even reverse engineering won't keep up with it. We need more free/libre hardware.

Re: 2025 was a disaster for Windows 11

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Post by Arech »

awesan wrote: post #29

I installed Linux (an arch-based distro) last month. There have been some minor issues but nothing worse than what I experienced regularly on Windows recently. My computer feels fast again and when things randomly break I can at least get to the root cause and fix it myself. I used to quite like Windows, but it has gotten worse every patch day for years now. The pain of learning a new system is not so bad and at leas…

I had been Windows user since Windows3.1. More than 3 decades straight. After a few years of working with Linux, installed Debian on home PC about a year ago and couldn't be more happier since then.
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