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Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

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Post by dpark »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #386
miki123211 wrote: post #293

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That was the principle many years ago, you had to leave the world exactly in the state you found it in. If John dumped Jane at the beginning of the episode, they had to get back together at the end, otherwise the viewer who had to go to her son's wedding that week wouldn't know what was going on. There was no streaming, recaps were few and far between, and not everybody had access to timeshifting, so you couldn't jus…

> That was the principle many years ago, you had to leave the world exactly in the state you found it in. This doesn't make sense; no show I know from that time followed that principle - and for good reason, because they'd get boring the moment the viewer realizes that nothing ever happens on them, because everything gets immediately undone or rendered meaningless. Major structural changes get restored at the end (wi…

> Major structural changes get restored at the end

This is the point. There persistent changes in these shows tended to be very minor. Nothing big ever happened that wasn’t fully resolved by the time the credits rolled unless it was a 2-part episode, and then it was reset by the end of the second episode.

Re: Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

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Post by dpark »

PaulRobinson wrote: post #450
Steuard wrote: post #439

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How old are you? Because I promise you, that description was pretty much spot-on for most shows through most of the history of TV prior to the late 1990s. My memory is that the main exception was daytime soap operas, which did expect viewers to watch pretty much daily. (I recall a conversation explaining Babylon 5's ongoing plot arc to my parents, and one of them said, "You mean, sort of like a soap opera?") Those "P…

I even seem to recall that when Babylon 5 came out, a lot of people hated it in part for this reason. And when older format "nothing ever happens" shows like The Simpsons did try to go story-arc ("Who Shot Mr Burns?"), likewise: outrage.

South Park even made fun of the standard “reset” with the Kenny death gag.

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Post by pkulak »

lingrush4 wrote: post #577

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Eh, it just fell into the trap of “too much magic”. By the end, every single plot element was created by something magic the audience has never seen before, then eventually solved by another magic thing no one had seen before. It happens a lot.

Re: Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

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Post by npodbielski »

tsss wrote: post #524
mnky9800n wrote: post #282

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I wish there was more Holly and her character was developed more. She’s interesting in a world of nerds as a girl who likes girl things. Like it’s an interesting character moment when she sees the bandana and goes to find it because her fashion is important to her. And then they crammed in all this character development when she dumps on Max that she feels guilty for everything. Basically I think the main problem wit…

All of what you said is accurate, but the problems are unfixable at this point, for two reasons: 1. Millie Bobbie Brown, the actor of Eleven, is unfathomably stupid (watch any out-of-character interview with her) and the role has simply outgrown her acting abilities. They can't make Eleven do anything interesting because Millie can't act it. 2. Writers have introduced so many supporting characters and separate story…

Then just kill her and bring another, more interesting character, that is played by better actor. I do not know... Make Vecna a human again and introduce even more dangerous evil. He could join the party in the fight. Could be fun if executed correctly.

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Post by throwaway270925 »

machomaster wrote: post #356
EbNar wrote: post #226

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Incidentally, that's the reason why I love photography in Nolan's movies: he seems to love scenes with bright light in which you can actually see what's going on. Most other movies/series instead are so dark that make my mid-range TV look like crap. And no, it's not an HW fault, as 500 nits should be enough to watch a movie.

Very ironic that it is Nolan who is widely known for consiously making movies with incomprehensible dialogue.

There is a difference between dialogue you aren't supposed to understand (Nolan) and dialogue you should understand but can't (basically everyone else)

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Post by ericmay »

randerson wrote: post #497

I'd pay good money for a dumb 4K OLED TV that does nothing but show whatever is coming in through the HDMI port. I use a Playstation 5 for everything including Netflix, Apple TV and so on. But every time I turn on the PS5, my TV detects the Playstation and automatically changes the TV's Sound and Video modes to "Gaming", which makes dialog difficult to hear on TV. So I change the setting manually using its horrible r…

I’m not sure about your TV but it may be a setting you can disable to automatically change the sound.

I agree with you though. We have a Sony Bravia purchased back in 2016 for $900. It has thr Android TV spam/bloat/spyware but it’s not used and never connects to the Internet which has made the TV quite usable over the years. Apple TV is connected, Sonos too, and everything works fine without any crazy settings changes. I’m not looking forward to whenever this thing needs replaced (which will likely be it actually breaking versus being outdated).

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Post by amflare »

npodbielski wrote: post #570
MasterScrat wrote: post #303

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Just so you know, this is already very much a thing on TikTok: AI-generated movie summaries with narrator voice explaining the plot while showing only major beats, reducing movie from 2h to shorts totaling 10min. It’s honestly not the worse AI content out there! Lots of movies I wouldn’t consider watching but that I’m curious enough to see summarized (eg a movie where only the first title was good but two more were s…

Then why bother at all? If you do not find 2h of watching entertaining than just do not watch it. It is like reading wiki summary of a good book or licking good burger because you do not want to chew.

One reason could be previous season or movie recaps. I know I'll go look for recaps to refresh myself on a story before launching into a new season.

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Post by Melatonic »

BikiniPrince wrote: post #549
TeMPOraL wrote: post #383

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> It would help if TV manufacturers would clearly document what these features do, and use consistent names that reflect that. It would also help if there was a common, universal, perfect "reference TV" to aim for (or multiple such references for different use cases), with the job of the TV being to approximate this reference as closely as possible. Alas, much like documenting the features, this would turn TVs into c…

I disable all video processing features and calibrate my sets. Bought a meter years ago and it’s given me endless value.

Yup - this is the way. Your room color and lighting effect your TV so proper calibration with a meter is always ideal

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Post by sssilver »

Funny because seven years ago Tom Cruise did a PSA about this exact same thing for Mission Impossible [1], during which he said “filmmakers are working with manufacturers to solve this issue”. I guess seven years later it’s still not solved.

[1] https://youtu.be/1J0Dan0WaZk?si=fPH8uL3FhaiCKIRy

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Post by Melatonic »

vladvasiliu wrote: post #467
pmontra wrote: post #407

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They will setup their TVs with whatever setting makes them sell better than the other TVs in the shop.

I don't particularly like that, but even so, it doesn't preclude having a "standard" or "no enhancement" option, even if it's not the default. On my TCL TV I can turn off "smart" image and a bunch of other crap, and there's a "standard" image mode. But I'm not convinced that's actually "as close to reference as the panel can get". One reason is that there is noticeable input lag when connected to a pc, whereas if I s…

Sometimes PC mode reduces image quality (like lowering bit depth) at the expense of lower input lag
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