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Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

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Post by pixl97 »

keyringlight wrote: post #391
shakna wrote: post #313

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Cynically, I think its a bit, just a little, to do with how we handle manuals, today. It wasn't that long ago, that the manual spelled out everything in detail enough that a kid could understand, absorb, and decide he was going to dive into his own and end up in the industry. I wouldn't have broken or created nearly as much, without it. But, a few things challenged the norm. For many, many reasons, manuals became les…

Another factor is the increased importance of software part of the product, and how that changes via updates that can make a manual outdated. Or at least a printed manual, so if they're doing updates to product launch it might not match what a customer gets straight out of the box or any later production runs where new firmware is included. It would be somewhat mitigated if there was an onus to keep online/downloadab…

Yep, old features can disappear, new features can be added, the whole product can even be enshittified.

Updates are a mixed bag.

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Post by neom »

asimovDev wrote: post #560
neom wrote: post #509

I know this sounds extreme but I get actually angry/frustrated and often just can't watch peoples TVs. I don't watch TV myself but if I go to someones house and they have the TV on and it's one of those "enhanced" TVs, it boils my blood. I went to film school, I have emmy's, I've watched hours long conversations about frame rates and dynamic range choices and so many aspects of the creative process that the TV then..…

I often catch myself in the same feeling and now I am wondering if other stuff I am doing pisses someone else off. Like having plastic strips on my monitor I bought a year ago or the fact that the motor cable of my standing desk is not managed in any way (the clips detached over half a year ago and I haven't bothered routing it again) and just dangles there

I'm guessing you've never had a good friend or relative come over and then rearrange something in your house because how it's done bothers them? That's a thing that happens.

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Post by drob518 »

omnicognate wrote: post #258

It would help if TV manufacturers would clearly document what these features do, and use consistent names that reflect that. It seems they want to make these settings usable without specialist knowledge, but the end result of their opaque naming and vague descriptions is that anybody who actually cares about what they see and thinks they might benefit from some of the features has to either systematically try every p…

Agreed. And I’m not going to flip my TV’s mode every time I watch a new show. I need something that does a good job on average, where I can set it and forget it.

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Post by dpark »

watwut wrote: post #543
TeMPOraL wrote: post #386

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> That was the principle many years ago, you had to leave the world exactly in the state you found it in. This doesn't make sense; no show I know from that time followed that principle - and for good reason, because they'd get boring the moment the viewer realizes that nothing ever happens on them, because everything gets immediately undone or rendered meaningless. Major structural changes get restored at the end (wi…

I remember when slight hint of multiepisode story was revolutionary and everybody was tallking about it as a great thing. By today standards, nothing was happening.

I remember Deep Space 9 having big story arcs was very novel.

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Post by thesuitonym »

dpark wrote: post #569
thesuitonym wrote: post #505

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Sceptre makes them, and they're not terribly expensive, although in the US the price has gone up significantly for some strange, remote reason.

Do they actually make OLEDs? I haven’t bought a tv in quite a while but last I looked dumb OLED TVs didn’t exist.

I could have swore they did, but looking at their current lineup it appears I'm wrong.

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Post by dpark »

liveoneggs wrote: post #465
TeMPOraL wrote: post #386

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> That was the principle many years ago, you had to leave the world exactly in the state you found it in. This doesn't make sense; no show I know from that time followed that principle - and for good reason, because they'd get boring the moment the viewer realizes that nothing ever happens on them, because everything gets immediately undone or rendered meaningless. Major structural changes get restored at the end (wi…

The Simpsons are all pretty much self-contained

Most shows were like that. Yes, there was some minor character growth and minor plot development over seasons most shows basically reset every episode. You almost have to when you’re targeting syndication because reruns don’t always happen in order and they often run so frequently that viewers can’t catch them all anyway.

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Post by speedgoose »

mat0 wrote: post #554

I don’t follow Stranger Things, so I cannot speak about the quality of the show, but I clicked on the link to see which settings the guy was talking about and I was surprised about how awful the CGI of that shot looks like. It’s hideous. Looks worse than 10 year old video games. What is that about? Am I going crazy?

I didn’t watch the show too, and I agree. Though I’m not convinced that excellent CGI would significantly improve the scene.

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Post by neom »

dahart wrote: post #534
neom wrote: post #509

I know this sounds extreme but I get actually angry/frustrated and often just can't watch peoples TVs. I don't watch TV myself but if I go to someones house and they have the TV on and it's one of those "enhanced" TVs, it boils my blood. I went to film school, I have emmy's, I've watched hours long conversations about frame rates and dynamic range choices and so many aspects of the creative process that the TV then..…

If TV settings offend you, you should be offended by anyone watching anything made for movie theater on a TV or iPad or - gasp - a phone, regardless of settings. And it should be offensive to watch with the lights on or windows open. ;) To be fair, 24p is crap. You know and agree with that, right? Horizontal pans in 24p are just completely unwatchable garbage, verticals aren’t that much better, action sequences in 24…

I thought your comment was hilarious so thank you for it. 20 year old me would have had a field day with it, especially the 24p stuff. ;)

On your presentation point, I think 20 year old me would have generally agreed with you but also argued strongly that people should be educated on the most ideal environment they can muster, and then should muster it! This is obviously silly, but 20 year old me is still in there somewhere. :)

Shrek was really well done, nice work.

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