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Re: Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

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Thanks for the thought but from what I’ve heard from friends I’ll be keeping the final season unwatched just like I did with the last 2 episodes of GoT.

Yes I also let my girlfriend skip the last two episodes. Tyrion Lannister did say "if you think this has a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention".

That was Ramsay Bolton who said that, I believe.

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24 fps looks like terrible judder to me in the cinema too. I'm not afraid to admit it even if it will ruffle the feathers of the old 24 fps purists. It was always just a compromise between film cost and smoothness. A compromise that isn't relevant any longer with digital medium. But we can't have nice things it seems, because some people can't get over what they're used to.

>It was always just a compromise between film cost and smoothness. I think the criticisms of The Hobbit when it came out in 48fps showed that it's not just that.

That film had many problems, but the acceptable frame rate was not one of them. Most criticism wasn’t about that.

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I am floored that people really expect integrated TV speakers to be good.

I don’t expect them to be “good” but I expect to be able to make out the basics.

Your expectations are too high, a 30mm thick screen will never produce good audio.

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Thanks for the thought but from what I’ve heard from friends I’ll be keeping the final season unwatched just like I did with the last 2 episodes of GoT.

The first season was the only really good one.

Exactly, even the second one was a poor caricature.

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Soundbars are a good option, but spend some time reading reviews as there is a huge gap between the cheaper ones and good quality that will actually make a difference. My brother has 2 of the apple speakers in stereo mode and they sound pretty good imo. Nothing beats true surround sound though.

I have an eye-wateringly expensive 7.1 surround system in the living room, and a pair of full size HomePods either side of the TV in my studio. I prefer the audio from the HomePods.

Honestly after hearing his I don't blame you, especially when you consider what a pain in the ass it is to setup a 7.1 system properly.

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Yes I also let my girlfriend skip the last two episodes. Tyrion Lannister did say "if you think this has a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention".

As someone who hasn't watched GoT, only heard of it from others, let me guess: In those two episodes everyone dies a very cruel and painful death, except for one or two main characters?

Everyone already died a painful and cruel death for the first four seasons, that was what made the show so compelling to watch.

From that point on, everyone gets 10 inch thick plot armour, and then the last two episodes skip a whole season or two of character development to try and box the show off quickly.

Re: Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

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Yes I also let my girlfriend skip the last two episodes. Tyrion Lannister did say "if you think this has a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention".

As someone who hasn't watched GoT, only heard of it from others, let me guess: In those two episodes everyone dies a very cruel and painful death, except for one or two main characters?

Death is not a problem in GoT, the exact opposite, it is what the show is known for.

It's the way stuff is done, the characters' changed behavior, incomprehensible logic, stupid explanations, etc.

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I don’t expect them to be “good” but I expect to be able to make out the basics.

Your expectations are too high, a 30mm thick screen will never produce good audio.

Various sections of my screen (LG C series) are significantly thicker than 30mm.

Also - this isn’t a speaker problem this is a content problem. I watched the princess bride last week on the TV, and didn’t require captions, but I’m watching Pluribus on Netflix and I’m finding it borderline impossible to keep up without them.

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As mentioned elsewhere: no problem with youtube videos (even with hard accents like scottish) but a world of pain for tv shows and movies. On the same TV. Oh, and the youtube videos don't have the infamous mixing issues of "voices too low, explosions too high". It's the source material, not the device. Stop accusing TV speakers, they are ok-tier.

You do realize that "voices too low, explosions too high" is because of the audio mixing in the movies and how it sounds on shitty integrated speakers right? When you have a good setup those same movies sound incredible, Nolan films are a perfect example.

I understand it perfectly well, yes. It is an audio mixing made for theaters with sound isolation so that it's absolutely possible to hear the dialogue. I have no trouble understanding the dialogue with the volume tuned up to what I would have in a theater.

Yet I do live in a flat, in Paris, with neighbors on the same floor, on the floor above, and on the floor below. Thus I tune the volume to something that is acceptable in this context.

Or I should say, I spend the whole movie with the remote in my hand, tuning the volume up and down between voices and explosions.

Theatre mix is a bad home mix. It is valid for home cinema. Not for everyday living room.

Yes I could buy a receiver and manually EQ all channels and yadda yadda yadda. I live in an apartment. My 65" LG C2 TV is already ginormous by parisian flat standards. Ain't nobody got space for a dedicated receiver and speakers and whatnot. I tuned the audio, and some properly mixed movies actually sound great!

As an added bonus, I had troubles with "House of Guinness" recently both on my TV and with good headphones, where I also did the volume dance.

IMHO there's no care spent on the stereo mixes of current movies and TV shows. And to keep your example, Nolan shows are some of the most understandable and legible on my current setup :)

Another fact is, I have no trouble with YouTube videos in many languages and style, or with video games. You know, stuff that care about legibility in the home.

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