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Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

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Post by throw-12-16 »

Yizahi wrote: post #324
throw-12-16 wrote: post #100

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Sounds like you are just using internal speakers. They are notorious for bad vocal range audio. I have a decent surround sound and had no issues at all.

I'm listening to a majority of video content in my stereo headphones on PC. They are good and quality of every source is good. Everything sounds fine except for some movie and some TV shows specifically. And those are atrocious in clarity. Regarding internal speakers, I have listened to several cheap to medium TVs on internal speakers, and yes on some models the sound was bad. But it doesn't matter, because the most…

I'm not a speaker sales person, believe whatever you want.

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Post by monegator »

MasterScrat wrote: post #303
epistasis wrote: post #21

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Careful what you wish for, or we might get AI-powered "Vibrant Story" filters that reduce 62 minutes of plot-less filler to a 5 minute summary of the only relevant points. Or that try to generate some logic to make the magic in the story make narrative sense.

Just so you know, this is already very much a thing on TikTok: AI-generated movie summaries with narrator voice explaining the plot while showing only major beats, reducing movie from 2h to shorts totaling 10min. It’s honestly not the worse AI content out there! Lots of movies I wouldn’t consider watching but that I’m curious enough to see summarized (eg a movie where only the first title was good but two more were s…

I just read the plot on wiki

Re: Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

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Post by throw-12-16 »

tuetuopay wrote: post #350
throw-12-16 wrote: post #100

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Sounds like you are just using internal speakers. They are notorious for bad vocal range audio. I have a decent surround sound and had no issues at all.

As mentioned elsewhere: no problem with youtube videos (even with hard accents like scottish) but a world of pain for tv shows and movies. On the same TV. Oh, and the youtube videos don't have the infamous mixing issues of "voices too low, explosions too high". It's the source material, not the device. Stop accusing TV speakers, they are ok-tier.

You do realize that "voices too low, explosions too high" is because of the audio mixing in the movies and how it sounds on shitty integrated speakers right?

When you have a good setup those same movies sound incredible, Nolan films are a perfect example.

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Post by KingMob »

andersa wrote: post #126

Release your movie in native 120 fps and I'll turn off motion interpolation. Until then, minor flickering artifacts when it fails to resolve motion, or minor haloing around edges of moving objects, are vastly preferable to unwatchable judder that I can't even interpret as motion sometimes. Every PC gamer knows you need high frame rates for camera movement. It's ridiculous the movie industry is stuck at 24 like it's t…

> Every PC gamer knows you need high frame rates for camera movement.

Obviously not, because generations of people saw "movement" at 24 fps. You're railing against other people's preferences, but presenting your personal preferences as fact.

Also, there are technical limitations in cameras that aren't present in video games. The higher the frame rate, the less light that hits it. To compensate, not only do you need better sensors, but you probably need to change the entire way that sets, costumes, and lighting are handled.

The shift to higher frame rates will happen, but it's gonna require massive investment to shift an entire industry and time to learn what looks good. Cinematographers have higher standards than random Youtubers.

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Post by machomaster »

EbNar wrote: post #226
freitasm wrote: post #55

If only the directors didn't make everything so dark and hard to see. Also stopped messing with sound, making it impossible to hear dialogues.

Incidentally, that's the reason why I love photography in Nolan's movies: he seems to love scenes with bright light in which you can actually see what's going on. Most other movies/series instead are so dark that make my mid-range TV look like crap. And no, it's not an HW fault, as 500 nits should be enough to watch a movie.

Very ironic that it is Nolan who is widely known for consiously making movies with incomprehensible dialogue.

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Post by zkmon »

KingMob wrote: post #344
zkmon wrote: post #291

My Advice: Turn off your TV. Anything that you watch on TV is garbage.

It's true, I read Hacker News on my TV.

TV means the media that is broadcast or streamed on TV. Not the display device that you use to read on internet or what you do on your computer.

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Post by tuetuopay »

amlib wrote: post #182
karlshea wrote: post #162

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One big cause of this is the multi-channel audio track when all you have is stereo speakers. All of the dialog that should be going into the center speaker just fades away, when do you actually have a center the dialog usually isn't anywhere near as quiet. Depending on what you're using there could be settings like stereo downmix or voice boost that can help. Or see if the media you're watching lets you pick a stereo…

We've been mixing vocals and voices in stereo since forever and that was never a problem for clarity. The whole point of the center channel is to avoid the phantom center channel collapse that happens on stereo content when listening off center. It is purely an imaging problem, not a clarity one. Also, in consumer setups with a center channel speaker it is rather common for it to have a botched speaker design and be…

Welp we had no issues in ye ol days. When DVD releases were expected to be played on crappy TVs. Now everything is a theatre mix with 7.1 or atmos and whatnot.

Yes we know how to mix for stereo. But do we still pay attention to how we do?

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Post by knorker »

dontlaugh wrote: post #256
knorker wrote: post #221

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To me it's not about art. It's about this setting making the production quality of a billion dollar movie look like a cardboard SNL set. When walking past a high end TV I've honestly confused a billion dollar movie for a teen weekend project, due to this. It's only when I see "hang on, how's Famous Actor in this?" that I see that oh this is a Marvel movie? To me it's as if people who don't see it are saying "oh, I di…

If films shot at a decent enough frame rate, people wouldn’t feel the need to try to fix it. And snobs can have a setting that skips every other frame. Similar is the case for sound and (to a much lesser extent) contrast. Viewers need to be able to see and hear in comfort.

If you think this is about snobbery, then I'm afraid you've completely misunderstood the problem.

This is more comparable to color being turned off. Sure, if you're completely colorblind, then it's not an issue. But non-colorblind people are not "snobs".

Or if dialog is completely unintelligible. That's not a problem for people who don't speak the language anyway, and would need subtitles either way. But people who speak English are not "snobs" for wanting to be able to understand dialog spoken in English.

I've not seen a movie filmed and played back in high frame rate. It may be perfectly fine (for me). In that case it's not about the framerate, but about the botched interpolation.

Like I said in my previous comment, it's not about "art".

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Post by drcongo »

throw-12-16 wrote: post #230
tybulewicz wrote: post #213

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Is there any way to connect just a center speaker to the TV? I want to get a 3.0 setup with minimal changes to the equipment.

Soundbars are a good option, but spend some time reading reviews as there is a huge gap between the cheaper ones and good quality that will actually make a difference. My brother has 2 of the apple speakers in stereo mode and they sound pretty good imo. Nothing beats true surround sound though.

I have an eye-wateringly expensive 7.1 surround system in the living room, and a pair of full size HomePods either side of the TV in my studio. I prefer the audio from the HomePods.
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