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Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

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Post by KingMob »

UltraSane wrote: post #210
Shorel wrote: post #109

Anyone who mentions: "the soap opera effect" is someone who used to watch soap operas. The reason they dislike it, is their own bad taste. I like how it looks because it is "high quality videogame effect" for me. 60 hz, 120hz, 144hz, you only get this on a good videogame setup.

I find the rejection of higher frame rates for movies and TV shows to be baffling when people accepted color and sound being introduced which are much bigger changes.

Maybe the quality of a change matters more than its size? Just a thought.

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Post by tuetuopay »

UberFly wrote: post #134
pezezin wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

English is my second language and I always though my lack of understanding was a skill issue. Then I noticed that native speakers also complain. Then I started to watch YouTube channels, live TV and old movies, and I found out I could understand almost everything! (depending on the dialect) When even native speakers can't properly enjoy modern movies and TV shows, you know that something is very wrong...

I "upgraded" from a 10 year old 1080p Vizio to a 4K LG and the sound is the worst part of the experience. It was very basic and consistent with our old TV but now it's all over the place. It's now a mangled mess of audio that's hard to understand.

I had the same issue, turn on the enhanced dialogue option. This makes the EQ not muffle the voices and have them almost legible. I say almost because modern mixing assume a center channel for voices that no TV have.

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Post by tuetuopay »

redox99 wrote: post #105
pupppet wrote: post #66

The fact that I have to turn on closed captioning to understand anything tells me these producers have no idea what we want and shouldn’t be telling us what settings to use.

Never had an issue with Stranger Things. Maybe you're using the internal speakers?

I watch YouTube with internal TV speakers and I understand everything, even muddled accents. I cannot understand a single TV show or movie with the same speakers. Something tells me it's about the source material, not the device.

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Post by ungreased0675 »

bee_rider wrote: post #188
pezezin wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

English is my second language and I always though my lack of understanding was a skill issue. Then I noticed that native speakers also complain. Then I started to watch YouTube channels, live TV and old movies, and I found out I could understand almost everything! (depending on the dialect) When even native speakers can't properly enjoy modern movies and TV shows, you know that something is very wrong...

The sound mixing does seem to have gotten much worse over time. But also, people in old movies often enunciated very clearly as a stylistic choice. The Transatlantic accent—sounds a bit unnatural but you can follow the plot.

In older movies and TV shows the actors would also speak loudly. There’s a lot of mumbling and whispering in shows today.

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Post by mschild »

ant6n wrote: post #335
KptMarchewa wrote: post #330

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is something that always irked me about those old shows. Even kids ones when I was still a child. Absolutely zero story progression, nothing that happens matter.

This used to irk me too. And I liked the epic stories that really became mainstream in the 2010s. But the problem is, nowadays the progression in each episode has become minuscule. It’s not an epic told in 15 stories, it’s just one story drawn out in 15 chapters. It’s often just a bridge from one cliffhanger to the next. For example most of new the Star Trek stuff, none of the episodes stand by themselves. They don’t…

I agree, but when rewatching older Trek shows it is also a bit infuriating how nothing really has an impact. Last season of TNG they introduced the fact that warp was damaging subspace. That fact was forgotten just a few episodes later.

I think Strange New Worlds walks that balancing act particularly well though. A lot of episodes are their own adventure but you do have character development and an overarching story happening.

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Post by crabmusket »

omnicognate wrote: post #258

It would help if TV manufacturers would clearly document what these features do, and use consistent names that reflect that. It seems they want to make these settings usable without specialist knowledge, but the end result of their opaque naming and vague descriptions is that anybody who actually cares about what they see and thinks they might benefit from some of the features has to either systematically try every p…

"Our users are morons who can barely read, let alone read a manual", meet "our users can definitely figure out how to use our app without a manual".

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Post by tuetuopay »

throw-12-16 wrote: post #100
pupppet wrote: post #66

The fact that I have to turn on closed captioning to understand anything tells me these producers have no idea what we want and shouldn’t be telling us what settings to use.

Sounds like you are just using internal speakers. They are notorious for bad vocal range audio. I have a decent surround sound and had no issues at all.

As mentioned elsewhere: no problem with youtube videos (even with hard accents like scottish) but a world of pain for tv shows and movies. On the same TV.

Oh, and the youtube videos don't have the infamous mixing issues of "voices too low, explosions too high".

It's the source material, not the device. Stop accusing TV speakers, they are ok-tier.

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