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The best counter argument to that is that he did manage to predict/make into reality electric vehicles (when going into that industry was crazy) and reusable rockets. If someone makes a thousand moonshot attempts but still succeeds with two that's impressive.
he did manage to predict/make into reality electric vehicles (when going into that industry was crazy) Nissan might like a word about that.
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Electric vehicles were the first types of cars invented. Musk also bought into Tesla. So its not like he invented some kind of alien technology. It was always about having good enough marketing to permit 10 years of R&D to make the car actually attractive.
Nobody with any knowledge at all is claiming that Elon Musk invented electric cars. The simple truth is that he made electric cars viable competitors to gas-powered cars. His genius is not that he invented them, it's that he profitably manufactured decently reliable cars for a price that lots of people found attractive. You can try and dismiss it as "marketing," but things like the Gigapress and FSD/Autopilot are imp…
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It's a myth that China heavily subsidises its EV industry. See e.g. this Bloomberg article titled "China Can't Cut EV Subsidies It Isn't Paying": https://archive.ph/5olix
Lately I've realized that "Chinese subsidies" are psychologically useful for people outside China to believe in, as cope to handwave away their own failing industries. Solar panels aren't really subsidized in China either.
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The model Y is a genuinely good car... I can't think of an automaker with better software. I've recently been shopping for another electric SUV and to be told that to get charging stops on your long trip 'through an app on your phone' instead of built into the navigation is.... Wild Edit: it needs to be said that I consider a car a solution to the A to B problem, and nothing more :) This was one of the premium German…
>The model Y is a genuinely good car... I can't think of an automaker with better software. great. I love that comment because software is the one element of a vehicle that we know it (vehicles) can do without from prior art. personally I would prefer a vehicle that emphasizes safety, aesthetics, performance, handling, utility, comfort, or reliability. another opinion : the cars with the best software are the ones wh…
I'm asking this as a challenge; in a Tesla the biggest complaint I have actually is the half-baked music software. You can't set it to start playing USB music when you get in, and there's no button to resume it either. You have to use the voice command "switch to USB" to get it playing where it left off.
The car's performance, convenience, mechanical reliability, service center experience, documentation, all fantastic. I don't have stock in Tesla, I just really don't understand the criticisms. Are other cars really better? Should I take some test drives?
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If he himself believes he can achieve his off-the-cuff deadlines or not doesn't matter for the rest of us: he already proven himself to be a fabulist, and after so many failed predictions, should know better than to air them in public, especially as he must be acutely aware that making such claims inflates his and his companies' net worth, and hence has legal implications. Only he cares not about those, as none of hi…
Somehow his company is worth ~1.6 trillion dollars, with most of that valuation being confidence in his predictions. He is predicting humanoid useful robots soon. Tesla's valuation defies reason
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Sorry Model X, a friend calls their’s an E as in the letter grade. I sometimes forget that’s not the real name, which gets confusing.
Letter grade E?
Not quite failure in Sweden. Something about how the car is not quite bad enough to break the lease.
Thus explaining the joke in such excruciating detail as to kill any humor.
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he did manage to predict/make into reality electric vehicles (when going into that industry was crazy) Nissan might like a word about that.
Nissan made a golf cart with an ecobox car cabin.
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It’s also Americans realized how inconvenient electric cars are. I take a fair amount of road trips. I don’t have the time to wait 30 minutes minimum to charge. And if there’s a line it’s even worse. And in the winter the heater reduces the distance a ton. It just isn’t practical
I’ve found the charging to be a non issue. It’s basically timed with bathroom / food breaks.
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Nissan made a golf cart with an ecobox car cabin.
That’s underselling the Leaf quite a lot. The original 2011 model had 107 HP and 207 ft-lb of torque (later bumped to 147 and 236, respectively), which puts it handily above several gas models of gas cars that don’t get labeled as golf carts. It was a perfectly fine car, it just had a poor battery.
Tesla was the first to take range seriously.