One of worst issues is when Cloudflare starts asking RSS reader to verify that it is human.
CloudFlare is ruining the internet (for me) (2016)
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Re: CloudFlare is ruining the internet (for me) (2016)
#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
Cloudflare doesn't need AI to survive as a business. There are more than enough DDoS attacks to protect from.
Yet it wasn't until AI grifters started aggressively scraping everything that sites started turning to CloudFlare (and the like) en masse.
Don’t forget that the main issue isn’t the initial data scrape but rather the fact that prompting an llm agent like claude code can amplify into 10 requests as it tries to answer your question.
Re: CloudFlare is ruining the internet (for me) (2016)
#53I have almost the same experience. I'm not running my own ISP and I'm not in a country known for originating DDoS attacks (Sweden), yet just using Firefox on Linux seems to be enough to be forced to click on traffic lights many times an hour. If I'm using Mullvad VPN that accelerates to almost every minute. CloudFlare claims to support privacy pass, but their extension implementing it seems to do absolutely nothing.
Same situation except for Linux: in Sweden, macOS, and Firefox.
The difference is: I can't get past Cloudflare's captcha for the past 2-3 years (on Firefox), have to use Chrome for the few sites I do need/want to see behind this stupid wall.
By now I've sent hundreds of feedback through their captcha feedback link, I keep doing it in the hopes at some point someone will see those...
Re: CloudFlare is ruining the internet (for me) (2016)
#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
Woah, yeah just tried tfd.com and got 10 CF redirects, still not loading.
From Germany: Two redirects, one for tfd.com, one for the redirected www.thefreedictionary.com. That's the choice -- and fault -- of the domain and webserver owners to have this full redirect instead of serving from the short domain directly.
>That's the choice -- and fault -- of the domain and webserver owners to have this full redirect instead of serving from the short domain directly.
You should choose one so things like caching will work properly, also search engines really want you to keep to a single domain hostname for the same content.
Re: CloudFlare is ruining the internet (for me) (2016)
#55I have almost the same experience. I'm not running my own ISP and I'm not in a country known for originating DDoS attacks (Sweden), yet just using Firefox on Linux seems to be enough to be forced to click on traffic lights many times an hour. If I'm using Mullvad VPN that accelerates to almost every minute. CloudFlare claims to support privacy pass, but their extension implementing it seems to do absolutely nothing.
You know, after reading your comment I decided to install and try chromium for few minutes and you're absolutely right. It did not ask captcha once. I opened the same websites where cloudflare always asks me for captcha on firefox so I thought this was common, after finding this out, I am feeling annoyed.
While Chrome users should feel a shiver going down their spine.
Re: CloudFlare is ruining the internet (for me) (2016)
#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
You know, after reading your comment I decided to install and try chromium for few minutes and you're absolutely right. It did not ask captcha once. I opened the same websites where cloudflare always asks me for captcha on firefox so I thought this was common, after finding this out, I am feeling annoyed.
While Chrome users should feel a shiver going down their spine.
Why would they? They're obviously on the 'right side of history'. \hj
Re: CloudFlare is ruining the internet (for me) (2016)
#57It is not CloudFlare that is ruining the Internet, but the spammers and attackers. On the second level, that catching and punishing them is impractical or even impossible depending on their location. Businesses were perfectly fine to accept the low security of 1990s email, webserver, and all the other configurations and software. They did not suddenly out of nowhere ask for more restrictions (such as email sending re…
>It is not CloudFlare that is ruining the Internet, but the spammers and attackers
That's unaccountability thinking. If I have pests in my rosegarden and as a reaction I napalm the backyard of everyone in my neighbourhood, that is not the bugs' fault.
Re: CloudFlare is ruining the internet (for me) (2016)
#58I can't use DigiKey without getting silent CF reCAPTCHA challenges for their CDN that break images in a non-obvious manner. Also, I get reCAPTCHA and CF ray challenges almost constantly for every website.
Re: CloudFlare is ruining the internet (for me) (2016)
#59> CloudFlare is a very helpful service if you are a website owner and don’t want to deal with separate services for CDN, DNS, *basic DDOS protection* and other (superficial) security needs
A lot of people try to downplay cloudflare's ddos protection but it saved me so many times over the years. I honestly don't think that there exists a good solution that someone with without a lot of money and resources can leverage besides cloudflare.
It's almost dismissed in the first sentence as "basic DDOS protection" as if there is any other company that provides an ironclad solution besides cloudflare, especially free for a tiny niche community. There is none that I am aware of.
Re: CloudFlare is ruining the internet (for me) (2016)
#60It is not CloudFlare that is ruining the Internet, but the spammers and attackers. On the second level, that catching and punishing them is impractical or even impossible depending on their location. Businesses were perfectly fine to accept the low security of 1990s email, webserver, and all the other configurations and software. They did not suddenly out of nowhere ask for more restrictions (such as email sending re…
> It is in the interest of CFs customers to be as accessible as possible, after all.
But since in reality there is friction, there is no magic mechanism to make those interest force CF to implement a better system as, for example, the customers might not have enough knowledge / tech expertise to understand they're losing 1% due to crude CF filters and ask for a fix