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Re: Who Watches the Waymos? I do [video]

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Post by dangus »

cycomanic wrote: post #89
lotsofpulp wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would pay lots of money for an electric minivan (or van I guess) with removable seats that can fit a 4 ft x 8ft board.

Not sure if it's sold in the US (assuming you are from there), but the Kia PV5 is probably your best bet. On top of that it's very reasonably priced (in contrast to the ID buzz)

Not sold in the US.

On the bright side the ID Buzz is deeply discounted, it is really not selling.

The problem is that the Kia EV9 beats it in basically every spec at roughly the same price.

Re: Who Watches the Waymos? I do [video]

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Post by collingreen »

dllu wrote: post #48
sam-cop-vimes wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed. May I ask the GP, how did you produce those scrollable images of the Shinkansen?

It was done with a line scan camera. More on the technique here: https://daniel.lawrence.lu/blog/2025-09-21-line-scan-camera-...

This was a great read and would be worth a submission of its own if it hasn't been posted recently.

Re: Who Watches the Waymos? I do [video]

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Post by sky2224 »

KellyCriterion wrote: post #55

Very impressive video! What you can clearly see: If you scale this over the next years, "manual driving is over" :-D This is just the very very early beginning, like the first seconds after big bang, we haven really started this whole thing: If you put just more ressources here, we will have giant parking houses for just self-driving-cars, like "coming home over night and recharge" And this technology will come on a…

> you see already today that self-driving produces already much less accidents (90% or so I read days ago?)

This is like saying skydiving is safer than driving because you're looking exclusively at accidents and ignoring the total number of events. There are way more cars than there are skydivers. Now in the realm of autonomous vehicles: there are way more manually driven vehicles than there are autonomous ones, so of course there's going to be significantly more accidents from manually driven vehicles.

Re: Who Watches the Waymos? I do [video]

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Post by cjsplat »

sky2224 wrote: post #103
KellyCriterion wrote: post #55

Very impressive video! What you can clearly see: If you scale this over the next years, "manual driving is over" :-D This is just the very very early beginning, like the first seconds after big bang, we haven really started this whole thing: If you put just more ressources here, we will have giant parking houses for just self-driving-cars, like "coming home over night and recharge" And this technology will come on a…

> you see already today that self-driving produces already much less accidents (90% or so I read days ago?) This is like saying skydiving is safer than driving because you're looking exclusively at accidents and ignoring the total number of events. There are way more cars than there are skydivers. Now in the realm of autonomous vehicles: there are way more manually driven vehicles than there are autonomous ones, so o…

The safety stats are per road mile, so it is normalized.

https://waymo.com/safety/impact/

Re: Who Watches the Waymos? I do [video]

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Post by 4d4m »

bri3d wrote: post #91
blackoil wrote: post #43

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How are Google allowed to get Zeekr? Are they pre tariff or they have some loophole being corporate?

They do have a loophole; they import them as kits and “build” them at a Magna facility in Arizona (similar to how early Sprinter vans were re-assembled in the US and sold as Freightliners). But, they are FMVSS compliant (besides steering wheel) and have had several NHTSA organized recalls like any other compliant car might.

Whoah cool, did not know Magna had a factory there!

Re: Who Watches the Waymos? I do [video]

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Post by DetectDefect »

lateforwork wrote: post #9

Seeing all these Waymos together like this... is depressing. You get a sense of the scale at which machines are replacing humans. This could be a scary movie made in 1970s about the robotic future... and that future has now arrived. What will the world look like 10, 20 years from now? What would a scary movie made today contain?

Curious if you have ever seen footage from a modern industrial farm, which has already replaced humans with domesticated animals and associated machinery, by a wide margin. Unfortunately those videos are a lot less appealing to most people.

Re: Who Watches the Waymos? I do [video]

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Post by dllu »

collingreen wrote: post #102
dllu wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was done with a line scan camera. More on the technique here: https://daniel.lawrence.lu/blog/2025-09-21-line-scan-camera-...

This was a great read and would be worth a submission of its own if it hasn't been posted recently.

Thanks, I posted it 4 months ago already: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44996938

Re: Who Watches the Waymos? I do [video]

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Post by BurningFrog »

KellyCriterion wrote: post #55

Very impressive video! What you can clearly see: If you scale this over the next years, "manual driving is over" :-D This is just the very very early beginning, like the first seconds after big bang, we haven really started this whole thing: If you put just more ressources here, we will have giant parking houses for just self-driving-cars, like "coming home over night and recharge" And this technology will come on a…

The accident rate isn't even the biggest advantage over human drivers.

The big game changer is that the computer doesn't need sleep!!

Human truck drivers in the US are only legally allowed to drive 10-12 hours per day. Which usually means the truck is parked half the time. With a computer driving, trucks can run non stop 24/7.

This is revolutionary change! Twice the delivery speed at half the cost. Should improve a lot of things across the economy. Unless some luddites find the power to stop it.

> How will this affect transportation jobs?

The human long distance truck driver will fade away as a career. It will probably take a decade or two, so people will have time to adjust.

The transportation industry should end up substantially larger, which normally creates a bunch of new jobs/professions, but I won't pretend to know how that will play out.

Re: Who Watches the Waymos? I do [video]

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Post by badestrand »

themafia wrote: post #97
KellyCriterion wrote: post #55

Very impressive video! What you can clearly see: If you scale this over the next years, "manual driving is over" :-D This is just the very very early beginning, like the first seconds after big bang, we haven really started this whole thing: If you put just more ressources here, we will have giant parking houses for just self-driving-cars, like "coming home over night and recharge" And this technology will come on a…

> If you scale this over the next years, "manual driving is over" :-D I ride a motorcycle. Unless you make this illegal, then no, "manual driving" is not over anytime soon. Some people actually _like_ driving, although, none of them appear to frequent hacker news. > there is nothing that can stop this? We learned the lesson of over automation in aviation very quickly. The best solution is very often, turn off autopil…

Good points.

About adoption I want to add that at some point a whole generation will turn 16/18 (legal driving age) and just not do a driver's license anymore because they will buy an autonomous car anyway. And IMO from that point on adoption will be very fast.

Re: Who Watches the Waymos? I do [video]

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Post by atonse »

themafia wrote: post #97
KellyCriterion wrote: post #55

Very impressive video! What you can clearly see: If you scale this over the next years, "manual driving is over" :-D This is just the very very early beginning, like the first seconds after big bang, we haven really started this whole thing: If you put just more ressources here, we will have giant parking houses for just self-driving-cars, like "coming home over night and recharge" And this technology will come on a…

> If you scale this over the next years, "manual driving is over" :-D I ride a motorcycle. Unless you make this illegal, then no, "manual driving" is not over anytime soon. Some people actually _like_ driving, although, none of them appear to frequent hacker news. > there is nothing that can stop this? We learned the lesson of over automation in aviation very quickly. The best solution is very often, turn off autopil…

As someone who loves driving, I still use full self driving (FSD) on the Tesla all the time since I got a new model Y Juniper.

And occasionally I switch to manual just because I enjoy it.

So when you talk about limited operational scope, I disagree. It’s being used by many as daily drivers (pun intended), like commutes and soccer practice, and road trips, and it’s here (from Tesla FSD v13 and definitely v14). Not 10 years away.

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