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iOS 26.3 brings AirPods-like pairing to third-party devices in EU under DMA

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Re: iOS 26.3 brings AirPods-like pairing to third-party devices in EU under DMA

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What is the point of responding to someone if you're going to completely ignore everything they say? Serious question, I'm curious what compels you to do this. Especially in such an arrogant and condescending way.

What you said is a bigger fantasy than the complete history of fundamentalist Marxism. There are precisely zero examples of a Laissez-faire economy succeeding in the real world. It is a wholecloth fiction. If you'd like to reconsider your stance from a realpolitik perspective, it might clarify the parent's response.

Can you be specific about what I said being a complete fantasy? I feel like you're trying to extrapolate some view of economics onto me when I was making the point that there are reasonable arguments that can be made against government intervention. Or is that it, you don't even think a reasonable argument can be made? If so I would call that ideological, not reasonable.

Re: iOS 26.3 brings AirPods-like pairing to third-party devices in EU under DMA

#133
post #121

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I would agree in general, but in this specific case it’s still an advantage for the iOS platform in general. It just removes a buying incentive for the AirPods. The general problem is that there must be a line. Vendors don’t create lock-ins because they are malicious, they create it because it makes them money. Now, if we limit these lock-ins, it will reduce their ability to make money and yes, it will impact some fe…

I actually have a problem with this. I want AirPods to be undeniably the best experience for me because I am fully locked into the Apple ecosystem, and I know many folks have complaints against that. I find it to be rather pleasurable to use compared to all the other alternatives out there. So if I have to start sacrificing my experience in favor of universal support, that really sucks.

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Re: iOS 26.3 brings AirPods-like pairing to third-party devices in EU under DMA

#134
post #101

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> All through that fiasco, where Apple was going through all sorts of twists and turns to avoid switching to USB-C Is there any evidence that "Apple was going through all sorts of twists and turns to avoid switching to USB-C"? Apple worked to create the USB-C standard, was among the first to widely deploy it. Apple fighting against a precedent where the EU would force them to switch everything to USB-C is strictly di…

>Apple worked to create the USB-C standard, was among the first to widely deploy it. And that is exactly Gruber's take. Apple created USB-C standard and gave it to the USB committee for free. And it is not even half true. But it spread across the internet as if it was verified. The other one being Apple AirPod sold at cost, and suggest Apple invented big.SMALL CPU core.

according to this Apple is listed as one of the contributors:

https://www.those.ch/designtechnik/wp-content/uploads/2014/0...

Re: iOS 26.3 brings AirPods-like pairing to third-party devices in EU under DMA

#135

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What you said is a bigger fantasy than the complete history of fundamentalist Marxism. There are precisely zero examples of a Laissez-faire economy succeeding in the real world. It is a wholecloth fiction. If you'd like to reconsider your stance from a realpolitik perspective, it might clarify the parent's response.

Can you be specific about what I said being a complete fantasy? I feel like you're trying to extrapolate some view of economics onto me when I was making the point that there are reasonable arguments that can be made against government intervention. Or is that it, you don't even think a reasonable argument can be made? If so I would call that ideological, not reasonable.

Markets depend on regulations. You can make any case you want, but you must acknowledge this root fact if you are discussing real-world capitalist policy. Otherwise you are advocating to change a system that does not exist in real life, or reflect any modern economy anywhere on the planet.

Your claim that the parent ignored everything you said is bad-faith and objectively wrong. They are critiquing your attack on regulation and pointing out that reality works in the opposite way. Case in point, you have no bombshell argument against regulating Apple in this instance. You cited no real-world examples and gestured at generic and irrelevant anti-regulation boogeymen. Then you used ad-hominem to attack them instead of refuting the point they made.

Re: iOS 26.3 brings AirPods-like pairing to third-party devices in EU under DMA

#137

Recently bought an apple watch for my mom and got it set up with her iphone. Almost instantly she notices that she cant accept WhatsApp calls on her watch, and after looking into it I found out that it was another one of those apple things where they assume youre obviously using facetime so that functionality isnt available for any other app. For context, in europe Whatsapp is the dominating messaging app and alot of…

You can accept calls on the watch from Telegram.

So this sounds like a “whatsapp didn’t want to do it” more than a “Apple disallowed it”

Re: iOS 26.3 brings AirPods-like pairing to third-party devices in EU under DMA

#139
post #5

It’s fascinating the kind of cool features we can have when products are made to be useful, with their target user in mind. Go EU!

Or it disincentivizes creating those features, if you must give it to your competitors.

Bro, market is there to benefit consumer first, not to make money for shareholders.

Re: iOS 26.3 brings AirPods-like pairing to third-party devices in EU under DMA

#140
post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would agree in general, but in this specific case it’s still an advantage for the iOS platform in general. It just removes a buying incentive for the AirPods. The general problem is that there must be a line. Vendors don’t create lock-ins because they are malicious, they create it because it makes them money. Now, if we limit these lock-ins, it will reduce their ability to make money and yes, it will impact some fe…

I actually have a problem with this. I want AirPods to be undeniably the best experience for me because I am fully locked into the Apple ecosystem, and I know many folks have complaints against that. I find it to be rather pleasurable to use compared to all the other alternatives out there. So if I have to start sacrificing my experience in favor of universal support, that really sucks.

Is there anything that makes you believe they'll sacrifice quality to have universal support?
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