Previously - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46338339
We'll add that to the toptext. Thanks!
Spotify reportedly investigating Anna's Archive's scraping of their library
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#62I wish Spotify welcomed or collaborated with these archival initiatives. Anna's Archive does not compete with Spotify in any way.
> I wish Spotify welcomed or collaborated with these archival initiatives. Spotify licenses the music in their library under specific terms. They don't own it. They can't just decide to give out freely on their own terms. > Anna's Archive does not compete with Spotify in any way. I think HN often underestimates the breadth of casual piracy among the general public who want to avoid paying $10/month for a service. The…
Fuck those licensing terms. They are the exact reason I cant make a Soundcloud notification bot for discord that is within the rules of the ToS. I sent them an email asking for an API key and basically got told no, license holders rule our world.
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#63I wish Spotify welcomed or collaborated with these archival initiatives. Anna's Archive does not compete with Spotify in any way.
To me it is the “in any way” at the end. I can’t possibly understand the blind desire to distort reality by using mere words.
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#64I wish Spotify welcomed or collaborated with these archival initiatives. Anna's Archive does not compete with Spotify in any way.
> I wish Spotify welcomed or collaborated with these archival initiatives. Spotify licenses the music in their library under specific terms. They don't own it. They can't just decide to give out freely on their own terms. > Anna's Archive does not compete with Spotify in any way. I think HN often underestimates the breadth of casual piracy among the general public who want to avoid paying $10/month for a service. The…
They're all for the rules, now.
How many people remember how Spotify... uhhh... "seeded" its music database at the start? (There's a hint in my question.)
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#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
The camera did not kill painting. And how does comparing a camera to an LLM even make sense?
Painting (portraits for example) as a profession largely disappeared, while art based on painting evolved (impressionism, cubism, etc) due to the camera. My point is that photography is essentially a simulacra of reality, yet it unexpectedly created its own art form and influenced existing ones. So will the use of LLMs for generation
It might turn out that there are more portrait artists, brush in hand, working today than at any point in history, in real numbers.
This is certainly true for riding horses, and most definitly for musicians.
But as the sole sources of those services, that is no longer true, or as percentages of total's, but with 9 billion people, the internet, and a big of effort, almost anything is viable.
Re: Spotify reportedly investigating Anna's Archive's scraping of their library
#66I wish Spotify welcomed or collaborated with these archival initiatives. Anna's Archive does not compete with Spotify in any way.
To me it is the “in any way” at the end. I can’t possibly understand the blind desire to distort reality by using mere words.
Maybe I was too hyperbolic, but when I read the original Anna's Archive announcement post, I appreciated their dedication to archiving content that may be lost one day. They called the effort "Backing up Spotify" and emphasized the good that opening the data could do. It's not about enabling piracy.
Following Anna's logic, I was calling on Spotify to stop "investigating" archivists. Spotify could instead be engaging constructively here, with Anna's Archive, Internet Archive, or other groups.
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#67Convenience won. How many people are actually going to download a torrent client, navigate through some massive torrent file collection to check the files of the artists they want to download so they can upload mp3s to their phone over a USB cable like it's 2004 again, just so they can avoid paying Spotify?
And specifically, not everybody owns a NAS with 300 TB capacity. At 30TB drive for almost 1000€, we are talking about 10-15000€. As mentioned in other stories, this is really welcomed by other big corps or LLM related companies
Datahorder here, a 26tb drive is about $375, so I don't think your quote of 30tb drive prices make sense. You can get about 80tb for $1000
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#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
Photography had particularly dramatic effects on the livelihoods of painters who operated on the fringe of the mainstream. This included the portrait miniaturists, whose markets fell drastically, particularly after the introduction of the multi-pose and cheap cartes de visite in the mid-1850s. Many gave up, while others turned to colouring photos [25]. Some painters of sentimental genre scenes were also particularly…
Nice wall of text, which part of that says painters jobs were killed? Or did you just read the title of the second article and not realize it’s not being literal but capturing the anxiety of the painters in the 19th century?
I think the first article which is highly recommended (where the excerpt comes from) goes over subsequent effects on the profession. The second one goes over the different genres that disappeared, and concerns less with the artists themselves
Apart from that our interaction seem overly emotional for me so I'd leave it as that
Re: Spotify reportedly investigating Anna's Archive's scraping of their library
#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
To me it is the “in any way” at the end. I can’t possibly understand the blind desire to distort reality by using mere words.
Maybe I was too hyperbolic, but when I read the original Anna's Archive announcement post, I appreciated their dedication to archiving content that may be lost one day. They called the effort "Backing up Spotify" and emphasized the good that opening the data could do. It's not about enabling piracy. Following Anna's logic, I was calling on Spotify to stop "investigating" archivists. Spotify could instead be engaging…
I was looking for a song recently and can't find it. The artist was banned from YouTube and looks like they took their album off Spotify. An archive like this is good for preserving stuff from smaller artists like that
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#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I wish Spotify welcomed or collaborated with these archival initiatives. Spotify licenses the music in their library under specific terms. They don't own it. They can't just decide to give out freely on their own terms. > Anna's Archive does not compete with Spotify in any way. I think HN often underestimates the breadth of casual piracy among the general public who want to avoid paying $10/month for a service. The…
They're all for the rules, now. How many people remember how Spotify... uhhh... "seeded" its music database at the start? (There's a hint in my question.)
also: "Musicians might note that 87% of tracks will now receive the same payment from Anna’s Archive as they do from Spotify: zero."
https://dadadrummer.substack.com/p/anti-copyright-extremists