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Airbus to migrate critical apps to a sovereign Euro cloud

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

jimnotgym wrote: post #25
hulitu wrote: post #10

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Was it laziness and stupidity, or was it protection money . I thought the deal since WW2 was a US security guarantee, in return for letting the US have our money. A protection racket. Or perhaps it was more like Europe paying tribute to its colonial master. Anyhow it is clear the protection is not to be relied upon, so it is time to stop paying. It is dangerous making deals with gangsters. It is perhaps more dangerou…

> I thought the deal since WW2 was a US security guarantee, in return for letting the US have our money

No. The Marshall Plan was about rebuilding Europe so it could be a military ally against the Soviet Union. The trade stuff came afterwards.

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Post by f1shy »

saubeidl wrote: post #68
f1shy wrote: post #54

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This trope with CERN/EU created the WWW is just chauvinism. That contribution to the internet is just infinitesimal small. Just stop repeating it as it was the cornerstone of today’s world. Is just one little stone in a gigantic castle made in the united states. I’m European, and I think is just silly to look who “invented” each thing, trying to feel patriotic about that. Every invention is based on other inventions,…

Is the castle made in the US? Why cut it off at precisely that point? Where was binary logic invented? Where was boolean algebra invented? Where was the turing machine invented? Hell, we can go back even further. Where would any of this be without Aristotle? Of course, this castle has been built by many many stones. But I think it's fair to say most stones came from Europe.

>> Is the castle made in the US? Why cut it off at precisely that point?

Because I was talking about this “internet was invented in CERN”, which is just not a little bit true

About the rest: So what?! Thanks Thanks Europe and Europeans!! We just killed 6 Mio. Judes and burned people in the middle ages… but wait. We invented the Web!!! And we can forget everything that came from Asia and middle East also. All is our merit!!! Again, my point is it is stupid to say some country invented X.

What kind of cheap chauvinism is that? Please give me a break. Many things where invented everywhere in the world, and I could not care less, because that will not make me better or worse because of being part of a country which borders were defined not 100 years ago.

The starting point of this thread in HN is about starting to develop some kind of digital independence, because frankly, the EU may have GDPR, but in everything else is much worse and stuck like 5 decades ago.

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Post by fulafel »

apelapan wrote: post #97
Sammi wrote: post #71

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Cloud must be the most uselessly overloaded term ever. I have no way of knowing what you are actually talking about when you use it.

Cloud always means "somebody else's computer".

If only. But it can also mean your own computers ("private cloud").

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Post by saubeidl »

ExoticPearTree wrote: post #157
xorcist wrote: post #67

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Pray tell, how much of, say, the latest Afghanistan war did the US pay and how much do their allies need to bear? The rebuilding of a whole country, the reinstatement of the Taliban regime, the destabilization of the region, and the still ongoing stream of refugees? The political aftermath of which is still felt in Europe.

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I'd argue the savages are the people shooting civilians.

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Post by MangoToupe »

mannykannot wrote: post #173
MangoToupe wrote: post #130

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It can be both. The document is massive, very contradictory and incoherent, and most of the people hysterical over it haven't even read it. Look I'm no fan of the trump administration but people should have concrete concerns, not waving around "project 2025" like some symbol of the country's imminent collapse. Unfortunately, our country is nowhere near collapse and this administration is not going to be the thing to…

Talk of how it might be interpreted is rather beside the point when the administration appears to be implementing a particular interpretation and SCOTUS appears to be fine with that, whether or not it is a selective one. Those are the concrete concerns of which you speak. It is helpful to have the document publicly available, but only if enough people heed its implicit warning.

I would argue the concrete concerns we should have is the fact that we seem to be committing economic suicide, which will have decades of economic and sociopolitical fallout. If you think people have an appetite for fascism today, wait until you see what decades of deflating economies will do.

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Post by darubedarob »

arrrg wrote: post #123
ExoticPearTree wrote: post #103

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> It's the same reason you don't want Chinese equipment in your telecommunications infrastructure. You can't trust what the Chinese government will do to it or with it. Using this logic, every country should develop its own critical equipment from scratch, in terms of both hardware and software. My belief is that there is no problem with the Chinese equipment, just scare-mongering from the US because it has no manufa…

For decades trusting the US was no problem at all. The relationship was mutually beneficial. Cooperation and trust among nations is possible and Juche (completely self-reliance) is not a worthwhile goal at all. So, sure, cooperation is great and should always be a goal – it also secures peace (people who are economically intertwined are less likely to go to war with each other). The issue is the US burning up that ea…

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Post by Angostura »

petcat wrote: post #80
breve wrote: post #4

A necessary step to reduce risk to infrastructure given that the US government has become erratic and has decided it is now anti-Europe. The US means to undermine the EU: https://www.dw.com/en/will-trump-pull-italy-austria-poland-h... The US means to annex European territory: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0j9l08902eo It's the same reason you don't want Chinese equipment in your telecommunications infrastructure.…

> It's the same reason you don't want Chinese equipment in your telecommunications infrastructure. You can't trust what the Chinese government will do to it or with it. Doesn't Europe actually have a lot of Chinese equipment in their telecom infrastructure? Is this an effort just to try not to make that mistake again?

The UK certainly ripped out a lot of Huawei equipment. Which is why our cellular coverage is a bit shitty these days

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Post by Angostura »

darubedarob wrote: post #216
arrrg wrote: post #123

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For decades trusting the US was no problem at all. The relationship was mutually beneficial. Cooperation and trust among nations is possible and Juche (completely self-reliance) is not a worthwhile goal at all. So, sure, cooperation is great and should always be a goal – it also secures peace (people who are economically intertwined are less likely to go to war with each other). The issue is the US burning up that ea…

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Do you need a hug?

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Post by ExoticPearTree »

Havoc wrote: post #110

I really hope regulators don't back down on this. Half a billion people shouldn't be reliant on whether a guy with clown makeup is having a dementia moment. Key infra (gov, utilities, news etc) has to be in house or at least in a EU country. Actually in house not big tech EU "sovereign" cloud wink wink nudge

> Key infra (gov, utilities, news etc) has to be in house or at least in a EU country.

For some EU functionalities there is eu-lisa which develops and hosts services - mostly for police, immigration, biometrics and a slew of others.

The problem is that they are very closed environments with a lot if bureaucracy involved and the development is done at snail pace.

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Post by is_true »

beAbU wrote: post #209
andsoitis wrote: post #163

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> Huawei became very competitive to Apple. Huawei got banned. How would you explain Samsung, LG, Sony, etc.? > DJI got banned. Untrue. Supply is constrained and future of new product availability is uncertain because of FY2025 National Defesnse Authorization ACt, which requires a security audit by late Dec 2025. If that doesn't happen, DJI could automatically be added to the FCC's restricted list, which could block n…

As a former Huawei phone owner, and a present Honor phone owner, Samsung LG and Sony does not hold a candle to the quality on offer from Honor and Huawei. And this is coming from someone who has owned multiple Samsungs over the years.

Huawei embeds ads in the stock apps. How can you have ads in a file manager app?
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