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Re: Graphite is joining Cursor

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Post by tombert »

bostonvaulter2 wrote: post #182
fosterfriends wrote: post #2

Hi all! Graphite cofounder Greg here - happy to help answer questions. To preempt one: I’ve been asked a few times so far why we decided to join. Personally, I work on Graphite for two reasons. 1) I love working with kind, smart, intense teammates. I want to be surrounded by folks who I look up to and who energize me. 2) I want to build bleeding-edge dev tools that move the whole industry forward. I have so much resp…

As someone who loves all the non-AI portions of Graphite (the CLI and the reviewer UI) should I be worried about this acquisition? Or will the CLI and Reviewer Ui continue to be be maintained and improved?

Forgive some ignorance, but we use Graphite at work, and I don't dislike it or anything, but I haven't really been able to see its appeal over just doing a PR within Github, at least if you exclude the AI stuff.

What do you like about the non-AI parts? I mean it's a little convenient to be able to type `gt submit` in order to create the remote branch and the PR in one step, but it doesn't feel like anything that an alias couldn't do.

Re: Graphite is joining Cursor

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Post by 1317 »

it would be nice if these tools named themselves something other than some random dictionary word, so you could tell what they are

what does graphite have to do with code review?

Re: Graphite is joining Cursor

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Post by dacox »

tombert wrote: post #201
bostonvaulter2 wrote: post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who loves all the non-AI portions of Graphite (the CLI and the reviewer UI) should I be worried about this acquisition? Or will the CLI and Reviewer Ui continue to be be maintained and improved?

Forgive some ignorance, but we use Graphite at work, and I don't dislike it or anything, but I haven't really been able to see its appeal over just doing a PR within Github, at least if you exclude the AI stuff. What do you like about the non-AI parts? I mean it's a little convenient to be able to type `gt submit` in order to create the remote branch and the PR in one step, but it doesn't feel like anything that an a…

the stacked changes support, for me, was an absolute game changer. the auto rebasing, etc, is -really- nice. i found it especially useful for Gitops type stuff where you have to make lots of little PRs

Re: Graphite is joining Cursor

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Post by steveklabnik »

dcre wrote: post #199
steveklabnik wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This was "announced" in October, and last week they were saying they're shipping to trusted partners to kick the tires before a real release, with posted screenshots. So, we'll see what it ends up like, but they have apparently already executed.

Wow! Didn’t realize.

These are basically X posts, so it's super easy to miss.

Re: Graphite is joining Cursor

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Post by Bayko »

1317 wrote: post #202

it would be nice if these tools named themselves something other than some random dictionary word, so you could tell what they are what does graphite have to do with code review?

Just saw a hair cutting salon call itself "Facelook" . Peak marketing if you ask me

Re: Graphite is joining Cursor

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Post by smb06 »

1317 wrote: post #202

it would be nice if these tools named themselves something other than some random dictionary word, so you could tell what they are what does graphite have to do with code review?

Their code reviewer was previously called Diamond

Re: Graphite is joining Cursor

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Post by hyperadvanced »

epolanski wrote: post #117
bangaladore wrote: post #53

Imo Cursor did had the first mover advantage by making the first well known AI coding agent IDE. But I can't help but think they have no realistic path forward. As someone who is a huge IDE fan, I vastly prefer the experience from Codex CLI compared to having that built into my IDE, which I customize for my general purposes. The fact it's a fork of VSCode (or whatever) will make me never use it. I wonder if they bet…

Virtually anybody going all in AI is exposing itself of being redundant. I don't envy startups in the space, there's no moat be it cursor or lovable or even larger corps adopting ai. What's the point of Adobe when creating illustrations or editing pics will be embedded (kinda is already) in the behemoth's chat it's? And please don't tell me that hundreds of founder became millionaires or have great exits or acquihire…

I agree. The reason Cursor’s “first mover” advantage doesn’t matter is because there’s fundamentally no business there. I’ve used 3 IDE or text editors my whole life, I’ve never paid for one. If I wanted, I could use AI to write myself a new text editor. Like you said, there’s no moat for any of this shit, and I’m guessing that by 2027 the music will stop.

Re: Graphite is joining Cursor

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Post by hbrundage »

redox99 wrote: post #175
tukantje wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cursor still has the advantage UX wise. The biggest reason I avoid using them though is their pricing structure being abysmal. I can't randomly throw credits into a pit and say "oh 2000$ spent this month whatever". For larger businesses I suspect it is even worse. If they had a 200$ subscription with proper unlimited usage (within some limits obviously) I would have jumped up and down though.

I don't understand where $2000 comes from. Relatively heavy cursor usage in my experience is around 100USD/month. You can set a limit to on demand billing.

I think your definition of heavy is different than lots of other folks I know -- I'm at $1500 / mo and am actively holding back.

Re: Graphite is joining Cursor

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Post by wbond »

redox99 wrote: post #175
tukantje wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cursor still has the advantage UX wise. The biggest reason I avoid using them though is their pricing structure being abysmal. I can't randomly throw credits into a pit and say "oh 2000$ spent this month whatever". For larger businesses I suspect it is even worse. If they had a 200$ subscription with proper unlimited usage (within some limits obviously) I would have jumped up and down though.

I don't understand where $2000 comes from. Relatively heavy cursor usage in my experience is around 100USD/month. You can set a limit to on demand billing.

I work at a company with thousands of engineers and have people hitting $200 limits in just a few days. I think the shortest was around 1.5 work days.
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