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Re: Graphite is joining Cursor

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Supermaven said the same thing when they were acquired by Cursor and then EOLed a year later. Honestly, it makes sense to me that Cursor would shut down products it acquires - I just dislike pretending that something else is happening.

we are a 70 person team, bringing in significant revenue through our product, have widespread usage at massive companies like shopify robinhood etc, this is a MUCH MUCH MUCH different story than supermaven (which I used myself and was sad to see go) which was a tiny team with a super-early product when they got acquired. everyone is staying on to keep making the graphite product great. we're all excited to have these…

Obviously what you need to say but the reality is that you’re not in control anymore. That’s what an acquisition is.

If Cursor wants to re-allocate resources or merge Graphite into to editor or stagnate development and use it as a marketing/lead gen channel, it will for the business.

Anything said at time of acquisition isn’t trustworthy. Not because people are lying at the time (I don’t think you are!) but because these deals give up leverage and control explicitly. If they only wanted tighter integration, they could fund that via equity investment or staffing engineers (+/- paying Graphite to do the same.) Companies acquire for a reason and it isn’t to let the team + product stay independent

Re: Graphite is joining Cursor

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Does it have some huge context window? Or is it really good at grep? The Copilot version of this is just fucking terrible at suggesting anything remotely useful about our codebase. I've had reasonable success just sticking single giant functions into context and asking Sonnet 4.5 targeted questions (is anything in this function modifying X, does this function appear to be doing Y) as a shortcut for reading through th…

It is really good at grep and will make multiple grep calls in parallel. And when I open it in the parent directory of a bunch of repos in our codebase, it can very quickly trace data flow through a bunch of different services. It will tell me all the files the data goes through. It's context window is "only" 200k tokens. When it gets near 200k, it compresses the conversation and starts a new conversation..... which…

> It is really good at grep and will make multiple grep calls in parallel.

How does that work? Multiple agents grepping simultaneously?

Re: Graphite is joining Cursor

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Imo Cursor did had the first mover advantage by making the first well known AI coding agent IDE. But I can't help but think they have no realistic path forward. As someone who is a huge IDE fan, I vastly prefer the experience from Codex CLI compared to having that built into my IDE, which I customize for my general purposes. The fact it's a fork of VSCode (or whatever) will make me never use it. I wonder if they bet…

Yeah, hard disagree on that one, based on recent surveys, 80-90% of developers globally use IDEs over CLIs for their day-to-day work. I was pretty worried about Cursor's business until they launched their Composer 1 model, which is fine-tuned to work amazingly well in their IDE. It's significantly faster than using any other model, and it's clearly fine-tuned for the type of work people use Cursor for. They are also…

Hard disagree.

Composer is extremely dumb compared to sonnet, let alone opus. I see no reason to use it. Yes, it's cheaper, but your time is not free.

Re: Graphite is joining Cursor

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Imo Cursor did had the first mover advantage by making the first well known AI coding agent IDE. But I can't help but think they have no realistic path forward. As someone who is a huge IDE fan, I vastly prefer the experience from Codex CLI compared to having that built into my IDE, which I customize for my general purposes. The fact it's a fork of VSCode (or whatever) will make me never use it. I wonder if they bet…

Cursor still has the advantage UX wise. The biggest reason I avoid using them though is their pricing structure being abysmal. I can't randomly throw credits into a pit and say "oh 2000$ spent this month whatever". For larger businesses I suspect it is even worse. If they had a 200$ subscription with proper unlimited usage (within some limits obviously) I would have jumped up and down though.

I don't understand where $2000 comes from.

Relatively heavy cursor usage in my experience is around 100USD/month. You can set a limit to on demand billing.

Re: Graphite is joining Cursor

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Hi all! Graphite cofounder Greg here - happy to help answer questions. To preempt one: I’ve been asked a few times so far why we decided to join. Personally, I work on Graphite for two reasons. 1) I love working with kind, smart, intense teammates. I want to be surrounded by folks who I look up to and who energize me. 2) I want to build bleeding-edge dev tools that move the whole industry forward. I have so much resp…

> I wouldn’t do this if I didn’t think the Cursor team weren’t standup people with high character and kindness

Somebody screenshot this please. We are looking at comedy gold in the next 3 years and there’s no shortage of material.

Re: Graphite is joining Cursor

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Hi all! Graphite cofounder Greg here - happy to help answer questions. To preempt one: I’ve been asked a few times so far why we decided to join. Personally, I work on Graphite for two reasons. 1) I love working with kind, smart, intense teammates. I want to be surrounded by folks who I look up to and who energize me. 2) I want to build bleeding-edge dev tools that move the whole industry forward. I have so much resp…

Congrats!! I see this as two great companies joining forces in a crowded space where it is clear the whole is worth more than the sum of their parts. Best of luck on your journey

Re: Graphite is joining Cursor

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God cursors tab complete is woeful in basically all of my usage at work. It’s so actively wrong that I turned it off. It’s agent flows are far far more useful to me

Glad i'm not the only one. I use SQL primarily and it is awful and distracting

I pair program literally all day and my coworkers fight against it haha it’s wild to watch

Re: Graphite is joining Cursor

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Hi! Another one of the Graphite co-founders here. Alongside Greg, happy to answer any questions :)

Are there thoughts on getting to something more like a "single window dev workflow"? The code editing and reviewing experiences are very disjoint, generally speaking. My other question is whether stacked PRs are the endpoint of presenting changes or a waypoint to a bigger vision? I can't get past the idea that presenting changes as diffs in filesystem order is suboptimal, rather than as stories of what changed and wh…

I really like all these ideas - very similar to what we discuss internally! We need to iterate our way there, but working with Cursor makes some of these visions much more possible

Re: Graphite is joining Cursor

#180
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Hi! Another one of the Graphite co-founders here. Alongside Greg, happy to answer any questions :)

Congrats on the acquisition! I know its early but would existing cursor users get graphite for free/at a discount?

Im sure we'll do something to simplify pricing and packaging in the future, but not right away
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