Could someone summarize the problem with Firefox's AI features? At least when I last checked (months ago), none of those features that involve communicating with external servers would work unless you configure them to (i.e. provide credentials to an LLM provider). Was I wrong? Have things changed?
Firefox will have an option to disable all AI features
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Re: Firefox will have an option to disable all AI features
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The chatbot can provide sponsored responses. Not sure how evident those will be, but I think it will happen. Surely is in Google's mind.
If the responses are sponsored, it seems the value drops dramatically. I want the AI agent to act more like a fiduciary, an independent 3rd party acting in my best interest. I don't need an AI salesman interjecting itself into my life with compromised incentives.
(I mean, that could still steer it toward places that have affiliate programs, but if you're running a local AI tool to help you search for these things that seems like something you should reasonably be able to toggle on and off/configure in a system prompt/something.)
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https://vivaldi.com/source/
Wait, what? Vivaldi is open source? Now I am confused and really not sure what was the reason I ignored it for so long. Was there something iffy with Linux desktop integration?
Re: Firefox will have an option to disable all AI features
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You're not a normal user of Firefox then.
Who is a "normal" user. Normal users install Chrome.
If Firefox can provide a more anonymized gate to these providers and guarantee that prompts are not used for training, this would be a net win for people who want to use AI but doesn't know better, i.e. the "normal" users.
Re: Firefox will have an option to disable all AI features
#125Have it as a stand alone plugin. I should have to manually install this AI stuff.
You're not a normal user of Firefox then.
Re: Firefox will have an option to disable all AI features
#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
If the responses are sponsored, it seems the value drops dramatically. I want the AI agent to act more like a fiduciary, an independent 3rd party acting in my best interest. I don't need an AI salesman interjecting itself into my life with compromised incentives.
Is there a reason such a thing couldn't present a bunch of neutral options, but with affiliate links that provide revenue back to Mozilla? (I mean, that could still steer it toward places that have affiliate programs, but if you're running a local AI tool to help you search for these things that seems like something you should reasonably be able to toggle on and off/configure in a system prompt/something.)
Re: Firefox will have an option to disable all AI features
#127Have it as a stand alone plugin. I should have to manually install this AI stuff.
Have recommended extension sets ([uBlock, Sponsorblock], [Containerise, Sideberry, Decentraleyes], [AI translation + Dictionary/Thesaurus]).
Make me want to use your AI features, don't just slap them on my face wishing I'll do more than get mad and try to get rid of them.
Re: Firefox will have an option to disable all AI features
#128Have it as a stand alone plugin. I should have to manually install this AI stuff.
Re: Firefox will have an option to disable all AI features
#129Of all the AI features added recently, local translations is one that I would be OK with being enabled by default. It's useful, and its value proposition is much less dubious.
EDIT: Oh, I've found a context menu item-list.
Re: Firefox will have an option to disable all AI features
#130Earlier quoted context omitted.
Who is a "normal" user. Normal users install Chrome.
We want "normal" users to use Firefox, not to push it to a smaller niche with more force. Even though I don't like or use this "AI thingy", it should be equally easy to use and equally easy to disable. If Firefox can provide a more anonymized gate to these providers and guarantee that prompts are not used for training, this would be a net win for people who want to use AI but doesn't know better, i.e. the "normal" us…