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Jonathan Blow has spent the past decade designing 1,400 puzzles

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Re: Jonathan Blow has spent the past decade designing 1,400 puzzles

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Post by mariusor »

pendenthistory wrote: post #129
mariusor wrote: post #101

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I said nothing about "half the US", and nazi is just your projection I think. But I'd like to know, are you disagreeing with me that the "us vs. them", where them is minorities, women, liberals is *not* in fact one of the upmost fascist tenets?

You are calling the majority of the US "far right". You're calling people fascist for voting republican. You are the extremist.

With the risk of being a pedant, I think that even at the time that Trump got elected, the validity of saying he was supported by a majority of Americans would have been questionable. Today, I'm positive that it's wrong.

But please, answer my question: do you disagree that the discourse of Trump's administration, where immigrants and minorities are "the enemy" and every measure is allowed against them, is not fascism?

To quote one of their golden boys Pete Hegseth's book *first* chapter:

> The other side—the Left—is not our friend. We are not “esteemed colleagues,” nor mere political opponents. We are foes. Either we win, or they win—we agree on nothing else.

> The United States has the top economy and military in the world, but our cultural and educational institutions—America’s soul—have succumbed to leftist rot.

Re: Jonathan Blow has spent the past decade designing 1,400 puzzles

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Post by jabbywocker »

jna_sh wrote: post #116
jabbywocker wrote: post #108

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Don’t follow him much but do you got any links discussing Blow being sexist, racist, homophobic, and transphobic?

The second paragraph of the linked article?

The Reddit link didn’t load for some reason and the other day be didn’t include anything racist, homophobic or transphobic. What it did cover is definitely a simplistic view ignoring the cultural nuances that might lower women’s participation in stem, but I’m not sure I’d classify it as sexist.

Re: Jonathan Blow has spent the past decade designing 1,400 puzzles

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Post by mariusor »

jstimpfle wrote: post #139
mariusor wrote: post #122

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I'm not sure what you're claiming in here. Is it that deporting immigrants, and taking rights from women is as bad as trying to get billionaires to pay more taxes and reducing systemic societal biases?

That's an extremely biased presentation of things on both sides.

I tried to summarise what I understand from the two ideologies. Would you share in what way that's biased?

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Post by fnimick »

armitron wrote: post #137
perching_aix wrote: post #128

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> a basic biological fact > looks inside > opinion He literally tells you that it's his bellyfeel: "I believe it is likely that (...)". Come on...

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It's a "biological fact" that women are less interested in technology?

Re: Jonathan Blow has spent the past decade designing 1,400 puzzles

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Post by lylejantzi3rd »

MrJohz wrote: post #119
lylejantzi3rd wrote: post #92

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That's true, a game like Blue Prince doesn't suffer from bad engineering because of the type of game it is. There are plenty of other games, like Cyberpunk 2077, where the lack of engineering made an otherwise good game unplayable and unenjoyable. The fact remains that Blue Prince would have been more enjoyable for those people who did see those bugs had some time been spent on better engineering.

I think the question is whether Cyberpunk 2077 would ever have been made under the constraints that Blow and Muratori talk about. Like, Order of the Sinking Star looks pretty impressive, but from what I can tell it's basically just a bunch of Sokoban-style games operating on a fixed grid. You don't need anywhere near as complex an engine for that as you do for a game like Cyberpunk 2077. My impression is that the Blo…

The Witness is a 3d engine made from scratch. Not all AAA companies use Unreal or Unity.

Re: Jonathan Blow has spent the past decade designing 1,400 puzzles

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Post by jstimpfle »

latexr wrote: post #103
jstimpfle wrote: post #64

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That's the same thing as happened to James Damore, who is, in my view, a harmless guy (even nice) and whoever cancelled him or is unable to acknowledge he had a point is much closer to fascism. I don't like throwing that term but just to return it. It _boggles_ my mind that someone might find it controversial that there are on average differences between the sexes in terms of behaviour and interests. And to throw ext…

> there are on average differences between the sexes in terms of behaviour and interests. And to throw extremely strong accusations like "fascist" for a totally reasonable assumption or observation like that That’s not why they’re calling him fascist, but because of things like being a Trump supporter. You’re conflating arguments.

I quote:

> Blow is a full-bore fascist sympathizer who also doesn't seem to think that women have any role to play in his profession.

The latter part being argued with a post where he merely opines that the sexes have different interests.

Re: Jonathan Blow has spent the past decade designing 1,400 puzzles

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Post by kibwen »

klausa wrote: post #125
jsheard wrote: post #18

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Yeah it's a real step backwards from how The Witness was presented: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ul7kNFD6noU This looks to be the first of Jon Blows games to put writing front and center, so I wonder if the clunkiness goes beyond the trailer. That's not really his forte.

Would you not consider Braid to have put writing front and center?

It's been about 15 years since I played it, but I recall the writing in Braid being memorably shallow, clumsy, and pretentious (with the grand twist at the end being that they guy who spent the whole game acting like a clingy stalker was actually a clingy stalker this whole time).

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Post by mariusor »

__alexs wrote: post #120
wongarsu wrote: post #38

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Ok, I can see the "fascist sympathizer" (though the fascist is Trump, not Mussolini or Hitler, so it's presumably not such a minority opinion in the US overall). But "doesn't seem to think that women have any role to play in his profession" doesn't seem substantiated from those links, unless I'm missing something here? Women being less interested in programming according to him is completely orthogonal to whether he…

Old tweet screenshots are the best I can do: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRT4vNEUIAEJgP3.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRT4vNAVAAAT8JP.jpg

Can you share why these statements are controversial?

They might be misguided or misinformed, but the underlying fact is that women are not as well represented in stem. Just because the reason it's more likely to be misogyny rather than any biological inclination, doesn't make it an outrageous statement in my opinion.

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Post by jstimpfle »

mariusor wrote: post #143
jstimpfle wrote: post #139

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That's an extremely biased presentation of things on both sides.

I tried to summarise what I understand from the two ideologies. Would you share in what way that's biased?

It's _obviously_ reductionist and biased, not losing any more words on that.
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