US threatens EU digital services market access

Post by [deleted] » Thu, Dec 18, 2025, 8:11 AM UTC

Hutrecht wrote: post #103

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The internship I had half way through my studies for a US based company (10+ years ago) paid more than most tech jobs you can land in Paris with a masters degree (right now)... I think you're underestimating the problem. Tech workers are seen as an expense, not a resource, and certainly not as assets.

There are plenty of developer jobs in Europe paying 70k+ €. While salaries may be lower than in the US, your real quality of life can be much better because: 1. Lower food costs. Groceries are cheaper and healthier and eating out is more affordable (+ tipping is not necesary) 2. Generally lower rent. Unless you live outside a few very expensive cities (but it would compensate with higher salaries) 3. No need for a ca…

Post by Europas » Thu, Dec 18, 2025, 9:42 AM UTC

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It does not matter anything in this case. It’s open source, it’s community-driven, and governance structure isn’t a moat. It can be forked in a matter of days, especially given that there exist independent European structures to support it.

Wikipedia is not community driven. About as public as so called public ownership in reality. It is clearly directed by a small group of people, mostly those with enough time on their hands. Most folk can no longer edit it. They're blocked. There are clear biases in its content provision, such as its coverage of certain rich people and establishment bodies.

Post by nephihaha » Thu, Dec 18, 2025, 9:51 AM UTC

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Wikipedia is an American outfit, owned by the American businessman Jimmy Wales. It doesn't matter which language it is in.

Calling a system that is 90% foss and public domain "owned" by anyone is a bit of a stretch. I can, fully legally, download all the text of Wikipedia for about 130gb and host it myself. Besides, Jimmy Wales is awesome.

Post by nephihaha » Thu, Dec 18, 2025, 9:57 AM UTC

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nephihaha wrote: post #79

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Wikipedia is not community driven. About as public as so called public ownership in reality. It is clearly directed by a small group of people, mostly those with enough time on their hands. Most folk can no longer edit it. They're blocked. There are clear biases in its content provision, such as its coverage of certain rich people and establishment bodies.

> Most folk can no longer edit it. They're blocked. Is this some sort of conspiracy theory? It’s just plain wrong. Wikipedia may block certain people, but it’s definitely not anywhere close to majority of editors. It’s easy to create an account and edit almost everything. It does have editorial policy and editors may have certain bias, but it has nothing to do with the fact, that you mentioning Wikipedia as some Amer…

Post by lm28469 » Thu, Dec 18, 2025, 11:10 AM UTC

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I'm sorry, €70K netto maybe, but that represents usually €140K bruto, which is quite uncommon. €70K netto in the other hand is not a good salary in Western Europe if you want a decent quality of life. It means that you will never own more than a studio appartement in your lifetime.

I make less then 70k€ yearly and I live in a capital and sure I'm not wealthy as fuck but it's perfectly fine. People need to stop this obssession with getting rich, I know it's because our system glorifies it (and greed), but most people won't get rich (value isn't created magically, if one has a lot, a lot have nearly nothing) and being wealthy is immoral in any cases.