I'm not read reading that whole screed, I just want to know if there's any regulations that apply to America only.
Otherwise, how can words like "discrimination" even be appropriate?
US threatens EU digital services market access
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Re: US threatens EU digital services market access
#52Since when Accenture is European? It’s this because these companies are not Palantir?
Accenture is operating from Ireland, legally speaking. It may be in American hands, serving American shareholders and American interests, and it may have been started as a European front for an American business, but it's technically an EU company. I don't think those kinds of details matter to a government looking to start yet another trade war, though. The list is based on the question "what legally European tech c…
By this logic, FAANG is also EU
Re: US threatens EU digital services market access
#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
What alternatives to Microsoft, Google, IBM or AWS exist in Europe?
None of those are products, those are companies that offers 100s of products. The question is not is there as an alternative to Google-as-a-whole, but is there an alternative to Google Search (yes), to Google Analytics (yes), to Gmail (yes), to Google Ads (yes, but not really), to YouTube (no), and to Android (yes, but not really). Having a European mega-company that offers 100s of tightly-integrated products shouldn…
just a nitpick, shouldn't youtube also be "yes, but not really", since there are plenty of alternatives to hosting video. but none have the reach that youtube has, similar to ads?
Re: US threatens EU digital services market access
#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
LIDL the supermarket chain is German and is running a large cloud operation inside the EU. And OVH from France is also pretty big. You’re correct that few EU companies get as large as US monopolies, but that’s kind of the goal when you want a functioning market.
You probably mean Schwarz Gruppe, the owner of Lidl, and their subsidiary StackIT. Yes, they are growing. Schwarz is also building 11B€ AI data center in Lubbenau, so I fully agree with you. We will be fine without American digital services.
It’s going to take time though… and the StackIT PaaS offerings aren’t yet quite as easy to use as their US competitors
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#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is currently no real European equivalent/serious competitor to the Apple/Microsoft duopoly, Google monopoly, Wikipedia monopoly etc.
> There is currently no real European equivalent to the [..] Wikipedia monopoly 8 out of the 10 largest Wikipedias are European languages...
Wikipedia is an American outfit, owned by the American businessman Jimmy Wales. It doesn't matter which language it is in.
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#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is currently no real European equivalent/serious competitor to the Apple/Microsoft duopoly, Google monopoly, Wikipedia monopoly etc.
On Wikipedia: German chapter is the second largest (>100 FTEs) and collects donations directly, funding root org from them and keeping significant part for its own operations. It’s not exactly an American monopoly.
Wikipedia is American owned. It also pushes certain ideas very subtly. Or not subtly in the hagiographies of certain "philanthropists".
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
Accenture is operating from Ireland, legally speaking. It may be in American hands, serving American shareholders and American interests, and it may have been started as a European front for an American business, but it's technically an EU company. I don't think those kinds of details matter to a government looking to start yet another trade war, though. The list is based on the question "what legally European tech c…
By this logic, FAANG is also EU
Accenture has its HQ in Dublin - FAANG companies have their HQs in the US?
Re: US threatens EU digital services market access
#58Long term, it would be good for the EU if tech market access was restricted. The reason there aren't EU tech giants is because the US and EU are basically one market, so naturally, all tech giants end up being American. So it's not in the interest of the US to restrict market access in anyway and these tech giants know it.
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#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
On Wikipedia: German chapter is the second largest (>100 FTEs) and collects donations directly, funding root org from them and keeping significant part for its own operations. It’s not exactly an American monopoly.
Wikipedia is American owned. It also pushes certain ideas very subtly. Or not subtly in the hagiographies of certain "philanthropists".
It does not matter anything in this case. It’s open source, it’s community-driven, and governance structure isn’t a moat. It can be forked in a matter of days, especially given that there exist independent European structures to support it.
Re: US threatens EU digital services market access
#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
> There is currently no real European equivalent to the [..] Wikipedia monopoly 8 out of the 10 largest Wikipedias are European languages...
Wikipedia is an American outfit, owned by the American businessman Jimmy Wales. It doesn't matter which language it is in.
Wikipedia is open source software serving public domain content. Wales controls the main fundraising outfit and domain, but the rest is not his IP.