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Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by aleph4 »

glenstein wrote: post #123
afavour wrote: post #32

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Mozilla (in its previous form) has long been doomed. Mobile cemented it, I think. Browsers are part of the operating system and getting users to switch from the default is an incredible uphill climb. Especially when browsers are essentially utilities, there are so few unique compelling features. That lack of connection to tech giants is a strength in the trust angle. And I think they’re right to be thinking about AI:…

Right. The myth that keeps getting confidently repeated in HN comment sections is that Mozilla supposedly lost market share due to a series of strategic missteps. But it basically was about the pivot to mobile, and the monopoly lock-in of Google. Actually think one fantastic remedy for Google's search monopoly might be allowing the use of alternative browsers on Android via a pop-up rather than preloading and privile…

You said it better than me. This is the real reason Firefox has declined, and it's basically because of a monopoly.

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Post by padenot »

eviks wrote: post #138
1718627440 wrote: post #84

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They are still the only browser I know, which has actual useful chrome like changing the stylesheet, is CUA compliant and behaves and feel like a native GTK+ app (now-a-days only after restoring the OS window bar and enabling the menubar). They also have useful keyboard behaviour and provide both a search and a URL bar, which makes it effortless to search locally and perform additional refinery searches while hunting…

> They also have useful keyboard behaviour Like not being able to change the default shortcuts?

We're implementing it though: about:keyboard in a Nightly build does what you expect, this is tracked in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2000731 and dependencies.

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by ceejayoz »

sunaookami wrote: post #166
neom wrote: post #26

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He gave $1000 donation to support a ban on gay marriage, to be clear.

A ban that was supported by the majority at the time and the donation was six years old at the time he became CEO. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44461541

To Godwin a little, sometimes the right thing is not the majority thing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_Landmesser

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by protoster »

28304283409234 wrote: post #149
protoster wrote: post #112

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I use Firefox because I don't want to use a browser provided by an advertising company e.g. Chrome.

Yet ... with firefox that is exactly what you are using. Except there's a proxy in the middle (Mozilla).

I'm raising my hands, you got me.

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Post by Timpanzee »

ecshafer wrote: post #51
neom wrote: post #26

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He gave $1000 donation to support a ban on gay marriage, to be clear.

And people don't have to all agree on the same things. People can get together to work towards cause X and then individually believe in mutually exclusive causes alpha, beta, gamma.

Just because people can get together to work towards a cause while believing in mutually exclusive ideals, that doesn't mean it's the most effective way for people to work together. The ability to do a thing and the ability to do a thing well is a big difference.

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by glenstein »

alberth wrote: post #25

Dumb question: who’s Firefox target user? Chrome is able to capture the mass consumer market, due to Google’s dark pattern to nag you to install Chrome anytime you’re on a Google property. Edge target enterprise Fortune 500 user, who is required to use Microsoft/Office 365 at work (and its deep security permission ties to SharePoint). Safari has Mac/iOS audience via being the default on those platform (and deep platf…

Me! I want the best thing that's not Google or Chromium. Right now that's Firefox. Maybe someday it will be Ladybird.

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Post by thesuitonym »

alberth wrote: post #25

Dumb question: who’s Firefox target user? Chrome is able to capture the mass consumer market, due to Google’s dark pattern to nag you to install Chrome anytime you’re on a Google property. Edge target enterprise Fortune 500 user, who is required to use Microsoft/Office 365 at work (and its deep security permission ties to SharePoint). Safari has Mac/iOS audience via being the default on those platform (and deep platf…

> What’s Firefox target user?

It seems as if you ask Mozilla, the answer would be "Not current Firefox users."

I really don't know the answer to this question, and I don't know if Mozilla has defined it internally, which probably leads to a lot of the problems that the browser is facing. Is it the privacy focused individual? They seem to be working very hard against that. Is it the ad-sensitive user? Maybe, but they're not doing a lot to win that crowd over.

It kind of feels like Firefox is not targeted at anyone in particular. But long gone are the days when you can just be an alternative browser.

Maybe the target user is someone who wants to use Firefox, regardless of what that means.

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