I wouldn't usually use the 'non-native speaker argument', but thank you! Just yesterday I was accused of sounding like AI - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46262777 - my default mode is that I oscillate between sounding too boring/technical, or when trying to do my best, sounding like AI
I'm Kenyan. I don't write like ChatGPT, ChatGPT writes like me
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Re: I'm Kenyan. I don't write like ChatGPT, ChatGPT writes like me
#102It's the curse of writing well. ChatGPT is designed to write well, and so everyone who does that is accused of being AI. I just saw someone today that multiple people accused of using ChatGPT, but their post was one solid block of text and had multiple grammar errors. But they used something similar to the way ChatGPT speaks, so they got accused of it and the accusers got massive upvotes.
ChatGPT does not “write well” unless your standard is some set of statistical distributions for vocabulary, sentence length, phrase structure, … Writing well is about communicating ideas effectively to other humans. To be fair, throughout linguistic history it was easier to appeal to an audience’s innate sense of authority by “sounding smart”. Actually being smart in using the written word to hone the sharpness of a…
Good writers use words to make a point. LLMs use words to make a salad.
Re: I'm Kenyan. I don't write like ChatGPT, ChatGPT writes like me
#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
I was trying to figure out why my SD card wasn't mounting and asked ChatGPT. It said: > Your kernel is actually being very polite here. It sees the USB reader, shakes its hand, reads its name tag… and then nothing further happens. That tells us something important. Let’s walk this like a methodical gremlin. It's so sickly sweet. I hate it. Some other quotes: > Let’s sketch a plan that treats your precious network ban…
Did you not put some weird thing in your prompt ? That's not the style of writing I have in my ChatGPT, I run without memory and with default prompt. Yours try to make a metaphore at every single response. You can check both in ChatGPT settings.
These are cherry picked. Mostly the first and last sentence look like this.
I just checked settings, apparently I had it set to "nerdy," that might be why. I've just changed it to "efficient," hopefully that'll help.
Re: I'm Kenyan. I don't write like ChatGPT, ChatGPT writes like me
#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I even checked one of his responses in WhatsApp if it's AI by asking the Meta AI whether it's AI written, and Meta AI also agreed that it's AI written I will never understand why some people apparently think asking a chat bot whether text was written by a chat bot is a reasonable approach to determining whether text was written by a chat bot.
Well, case in point: If you ask an AI to grade an essay, it will grade the essay highest that it wrote itself.
Citations on this?
Re: I'm Kenyan. I don't write like ChatGPT, ChatGPT writes like me
#105I read about 4 paragraphs of the blog post, it does not at all read like it was written by ChatGPT! Some people are perhaps overly focussed on superficial things like em-dashes. The real tells for ChatGPT writing are more subtle -- a tendency towards hyperboly (it's not A, it's [florid restatment of essentially A] B!), a certain kind of rhythym, and frequently a kind of hard to describe "emptiness" of claims. (LLMs c…
Hey bro! This is the real English bro! No way we can write like that bro! What? - and ;? The words like "furthermore" or "moreever"? All my homies nver use the words like that bro! Look at you. You're using newline! You're using ChatGPT, right bro?
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#106Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have to admit I only read the heading. I didn't want to read the article, that would have ruined my day.
He messed with the glyph indexes in a customized font so the text is gibberish if you look just at the code points but displays as english. That would probably mess up any screen reader, but it also didn't work on a regular Firefox :)
wasn't that the article about the obfuscation of kindle ebooks?
Re: I'm Kenyan. I don't write like ChatGPT, ChatGPT writes like me
#107> For my generation, and the ones that followed, the English Composition paper - and its Kiswahili equivalent, Insha - was not just a test; it was a rite of passage.
OK but come ON, that has to have been deliberate!
In addition to the things chatbots have made clichés, the author actually has some "tells" which identify him as human more strongly. Content is one thing. But he also has things (such as small explanations and asides in parentheses, like this) which I don't think I've EVER seen an instruction-tuned chatbot do. I know I do it myself, but I'm aware it's a stylistic wart.
Re: I'm Kenyan. I don't write like ChatGPT, ChatGPT writes like me
#108Ironically, mistakes and idiosyncrasies are becoming a sign of authenticity and trustworthiness, while polish and quality signal the opposite. Earlier today I stumbled upon a blog post that started with a sentence that was obviously written by someone with a slavic background (most writers from other language families create certain grammatical patterns when writing in another language, e.g. German is also quite typi…
Maybe for writing, but in digital art circles if anyone notices a mistake in your lines or perspective or any kind of technical error you will get the anti-AI cancel mob after you even if you didn’t use generative AI at all. I would not want to be an artist in the current environment, it’s total chaos.
> artist
Social media artists, gallery artists and artists in the industry (I mean people who work for big game/film studios, not industrial designers) are very different groups. Social media artists are having it the hardest.
Re: I'm Kenyan. I don't write like ChatGPT, ChatGPT writes like me
#109To my eyes, this author doesn't write like ChatGPT at all. Too many people focus on the em-dashes as the giveaway for ChatGPT use, but they're a weak signal at best. The problem is that the real signs are more subtle, and the em-dash is very meme-able, so of course, armies of idiots hunt down any user of em-dashes. Update: To illustrate this, here's a comparison of a paragraph from this article: > It is a new frontie…
You're doing it the wrong way imo, if you ask gpt to improve a sentence that's already very polished it will only add grandiosity because what else it could do? For a proper comparison you'd have to give it the most raw form of the thought and see how it would phrase it.
The main difference in the author's writing to LLM I see is that the flourish and the structure mentioned is used meaningfully, they circle around a bit too much for my taste but it's not nearly as boring as reading ai slop which usually stretch a simple idea over several paragraphs
Re: I'm Kenyan. I don't write like ChatGPT, ChatGPT writes like me
#110Earlier quoted context omitted.
I know someone who was camping in a tent next to a river during a storm, took a pic of the stream and asked chatgpt if it was risky to sleep there given that it "rained a lot" ... People are unplugging their brains and are not even aware that their questions cannot be answered by llms, I witnessed that with smart and educated people, I can't imagine how bad it's going to be during formative years
Sam Altman literally said he didn't know how anyone could raise a baby without using a chatbot. We're living in some very weird times right now.
He didn’t say “how could anyone”. His words:
"I cannot imagine figuring out how to raise a newborn without ChatGPT. Clearly, people did it for a long time, no problem."
Basically he didn’t know much about newborn and relied on ChatGPT for answers. That was a self deprecating attempt on a late night show. Like every other freaking guests would do, no matter how cliché. With a marketing slant of course. He clearly said other people don’t need ChatGPT.
Given all of the replies on this thread, HN is apparently willing to stretch the truth if Sam Altman can be put under any negative light.
https://www.benzinga.com/markets/tech/25/12/49323477/openais...