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Re: Bye, Mom

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It's difficult for me to reconcile her grief at the loss of her mother with the horrific abuse her parents inflicted on her. (Mostly her father, to be fair, but with the full knowledge and consent of her mother.) https://aella.substack.com/p/the-joy-is-not-optional

Yikes. The “funnel,” the requirement for instant obedience… this gave very https://elan.school vibes.

Re: Bye, Mom

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Odd choice for a Hacker News article. Shes kind of an e-girl so I guess it makes sense in a way. Well written article!

Why do you think it's odd? These types of articles - the "human" ones - are some of the best on HN, IMO. Jake Seliger's posts as he was dying were incredible, for example.

https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=jseliger

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It's difficult for me to reconcile her grief at the loss of her mother with the horrific abuse her parents inflicted on her. (Mostly her father, to be fair, but with the full knowledge and consent of her mother.) https://aella.substack.com/p/the-joy-is-not-optional

That was horrifying to read, but I guess this part explains it:

> I ultimately came to terms with my childhood by viewing it as correct. Not in the sense that I would do it to my children, or that it’s ethical by my lights, but rather that it makes sense, it belongs here. My dad was abused when he was a child and probably has NPD; my mom loved us and tried very hard but was misguided in how to show it.

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Odd choice for a Hacker News article. Shes kind of an e-girl so I guess it makes sense in a way. Well written article!

First time I saw a post here of her I found it odd, and made me think, now I know it's one of the things that makes HN, HN and I appreciate. To make me think.

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#28

It's difficult for me to reconcile her grief at the loss of her mother with the horrific abuse her parents inflicted on her. (Mostly her father, to be fair, but with the full knowledge and consent of her mother.) https://aella.substack.com/p/the-joy-is-not-optional

"[Human beings] were mysterious congeries of twisted will and error, misapprehension and misrepresentation, and the expected could not be expected of them." -- Paul Fussell, Jr.

Re: Bye, Mom

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It's difficult for me to reconcile her grief at the loss of her mother with the horrific abuse her parents inflicted on her. (Mostly her father, to be fair, but with the full knowledge and consent of her mother.) https://aella.substack.com/p/the-joy-is-not-optional

Thanks for the link. Yes, that does give pause for thought: -- For example: once, when I was eight years old, I’d done something wrong that warranted a spanking. My dad commanded me ‘come here.’ I hesitated, building up my willpower, before complying. He spanked me and let me go as I sobbed. He then said “You hesitated. That’s disobedience - come here to get another one.” At this point I was in a lot of pain, and the…

Stories like this are why there should be competency tests before letting people be fertile.

Re: Bye, Mom

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Thanks for the link. Yes, that does give pause for thought: -- For example: once, when I was eight years old, I’d done something wrong that warranted a spanking. My dad commanded me ‘come here.’ I hesitated, building up my willpower, before complying. He spanked me and let me go as I sobbed. He then said “You hesitated. That’s disobedience - come here to get another one.” At this point I was in a lot of pain, and the…

Stories like this are why there should be competency tests before letting people be fertile.

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