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Re: Entire cities dead on some World of Warcraft realms

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Post by wdr1 »

patio11 wrote: post #24

Admin consoles: the soft underbelly of billion dollar software operations since... Seriously, though: you almost certainly have one if you run a software business. Client side SSH certificates are your friend. If you're not able to do that, because it is really annoying, separate it from the main app and lock it down as much as possible. (Separate authentication from the main site/app's authentication scheme. Lock do…

FWIW, we used client certificates for the Beijing Olympics ticketing system. I have to admit they were a giant pain in the ass, but I still have to image they saved us more pain than they created.

Re: Entire cities dead on some World of Warcraft realms

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Post by lutusp »

> Entire cities dead on some World of Warcraft realms

1. Wait -- was I just teleported into my favorite South Park episode?

2. I can't wait to see the civil lawsuits for psychological injury against the perpetrator of this outrage.

3. Don't these people do nightly backups? It's not as though WOW isn't an important cybernetic resource meriting industry best practices.

Re: Entire cities dead on some World of Warcraft realms

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Post by shawnz »

spindritf wrote: post #93
patio11 wrote: post #24

Admin consoles: the soft underbelly of billion dollar software operations since... Seriously, though: you almost certainly have one if you run a software business. Client side SSH certificates are your friend. If you're not able to do that, because it is really annoying, separate it from the main app and lock it down as much as possible. (Separate authentication from the main site/app's authentication scheme. Lock do…

> Client side SSH certificates What are those? We're talking key-based ssh authentication? Or something else?

Key-based authentication in general. Doesn't have to be ssh.

Re: Entire cities dead on some World of Warcraft realms

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Post by sliverstorm »

pooriaazimi wrote: post #96
saraid216 wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's slingshot you into the future, where empires span hundreds of solar systems, spaceships abound everywhere, cloning technology is available to an elite class called capsuleers, and human beings still act human. You're a capsuleer. A capsuleer is someone who can pilot certain specially designed ships. As someone who has ascended into virtual godhood by the benefit of effective immortality, you have entered a new…

Thanks a lot. It suddenly seems so clear. But I wish you hadn't responded! I suddenly want to be 14 again so bad it's hard to get back to work on the app I'm building ;-( EVE will be around for a few years, I hope. And by then I should be able to play it.

It sounds really cool, but I've done some reading and it sounds like the most amazing moments of emergent gameplay (like the hostile takeover of a monster in-game corporation a few years back) are brief and rare, and the rest of the time I'm told it winds up feeling like a second job.

Re: Entire cities dead on some World of Warcraft realms

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Post by [deleted] »

lutusp wrote: post #102

> Entire cities dead on some World of Warcraft realms 1. Wait -- was I just teleported into my favorite South Park episode? 2. I can't wait to see the civil lawsuits for psychological injury against the perpetrator of this outrage. 3. Don't these people do nightly backups? It's not as though WOW isn't an important cybernetic resource meriting industry best practices.

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Re: Entire cities dead on some World of Warcraft realms

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Post by adgar2 »

rhizome wrote: post #99
gfodor wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It comes not from arrogance but from an apparent difference in how you perceive addictive video games: harmless entertainment, or harmful addictive substances? I'm not going to put my chips down here, but the point is the original poster sees WoW on par with cigarettes and I think even many smokers themselves would wish they didn't get "enjoyment" out of smoking, but are trapped in an addiction.

I think it derives more from a too-expansive definition of addiction that serves only to provide a self-justifying platform for prejudice.

I'm 24. I've been addicted to cigarettes, alcohol, cocaine, and WoW.

It's the same fucking thing. They use the same mechanics to tickle your dopamine receptors so you'll come back instead of looking out in the outside world for that same feeling of reward - family, friends, relationships all get fucked up because you spend your time seeking reward from {cigs, booze, drugs, WoW}.

Re: Entire cities dead on some World of Warcraft realms

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Post by podperson »

DigitalJack wrote: post #74
saurik wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think he means in terms of implementation detail like "how many machines are running the world": the idea is that there is only a single shard (to use UO terminology; I believe WoW calls these "realms"), which means that everyone is playing together in a single massive alternate universe.

I agree, that is probably what he meant, but it was factually incorrect. Even so, in eve there are only small aspects that span servers simultaneously (the market place, and maybe other things too--I haven't played in a year or so). The unique thing about eve is being able to jump between "realms" or servers or "shards." That gives the illusion of playing together in a much larger world. I've never played WoW, so I d…

WoW is not that sophisticated. Or perhaps a better way of thinking of it is that Blizzard wants to provide a highly predictable customer experience. The world has no real state so it's simply like being locked into parallel _identical_ dimensions.

Re: Entire cities dead on some World of Warcraft realms

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Post by ChuckMcM »

npsimons wrote: post #73
brador wrote: post #17

It's interesting to comprehend the amount of lives a hack like this will positively affect. How many will pick up a book, or go for a walk, now that they no longer have their go-to fix of virtual reality. How many WOW addicts will have time to think "never again" and follow through. Equivalent to all the cigarettes in the world vanishing for a few hours? Possibly. And equally as effective I say.

Chuckle . How many of those will go out and rob a liquor store? How many will perform an act of vandalism? How many will kill themselves because they are cut off from the only friends they've ever known? While I can emphasize a bit (I used to play WoW, but "grew away from it" and now spend a large portion of my time in search and rescue and musical performance), I have to say that this is a very judgmental POV to tak…

As an ex-WoW addict allow me to disagree a bit.

"It's not like anybody suffers from second-hand MMORPG."

this is flat out wrong. Kids suffer when their parents can't bother to change them because they are in the middle of a raid and this boss hasn't been killed yet. Spouses suffer when the amount of time they can spend with their WoW playing spouse dwindles to zero. Parent's suffer when their kids grades head to zero.

So any behavior that can warp your life to that extent is a relatively poor choice with respect to any other behavior that does not.

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