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How to use Gmail to destroy your relationship with your investors and customers

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Re: How to use Gmail to destroy your relationship with your investors and customers

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Post by DanBC »

overbroad wrote: post #112
icebraining wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My ISP doesn't block port 25, but since my IP address is technically dynamic, it's on Spamhaus' Policy Black List. That said, my ISP offers SMTP servers for proxying outgoing messages, so I used that for a while. I switched to a VPS because my home server died.

Gotta love that Spamhaus logic. Spammers use cheap dynamic IP's therefore anyone with a cheap dynamic IP that sends an email is a spammer. Is it cheaper for you to get a static IP from a VPS than from your ISP?

"Spammers use cheap dynamic IP's therefore anyone with a cheap dynamic IP that sends an email is a spammer."

That's not what they're saying.

"Very many spam emails come from people running an email server on a dynamic IP. Some companies were happy to host spam sending companies, and would put them in dynamic ranges so they could continue to get money from those spam sending companies and keep changing the IP address. The ratio of good email servers to bad email servers on dynamic IPs is so poor that blocking all dynamic IPs is, unfortunately, the only reasonably solution".

You can be on a dynamic IP and send email. Just don't send that email from a server on a dynamic IP.

Re: How to use Gmail to destroy your relationship with your investors and customers

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Post by biafra »

pearkes wrote: post #22

I use Chrome's incognito feature to manage multiple email accounts. My work Google account goes in an incognito window, personal Google account goes in the standard window. I've found this works really well, and the different colors help my mind remember which environment I'm in.

I use Fluid (http://www.fluidapp.com/) with Separate Cookie Storage for my gmail accunts. (And also for separate facebook, xing, linkedin etc. accounts)

Re: How to use Gmail to destroy your relationship with your investors and customers

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Post by Hurdy »

akkartik wrote: post #58
tghw wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately, you can't use "in:", "is:", "label:", or "has:star" in filters. Filters are applied before these things are determined. If you try to, you get the following message from GMail: Filter searches containing "label:", "in:", "is:", or stars criteria (i.e. "has:yellow-star") are not recommended as they will never match incoming mail. Do you still wish to continue to the next step?

It's worked for me for years: http://i.imgur.com/bUB3u.png

This works because this filter will match every mail, not just the mails that have the spam label. In the end it does what you wanted but the error is still right.

Re: How to use Gmail to destroy your relationship with your investors and customers

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Post by icebraining »

overbroad wrote: post #112
icebraining wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My ISP doesn't block port 25, but since my IP address is technically dynamic, it's on Spamhaus' Policy Black List. That said, my ISP offers SMTP servers for proxying outgoing messages, so I used that for a while. I switched to a VPS because my home server died.

Gotta love that Spamhaus logic. Spammers use cheap dynamic IP's therefore anyone with a cheap dynamic IP that sends an email is a spammer. Is it cheaper for you to get a static IP from a VPS than from your ISP?

Well, yes, because my ISP only offers static IPs for business contracts, which are more expensive overall, and my VPS only costs $2.3/month (and it doubles as a web server, hosting my personal landing page and an instance of Tiny Tiny RSS).

Re: How to use Gmail to destroy your relationship with your investors and customers

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Post by driverdan »

bosch wrote: post #41

People who do this are really annoying and have no concepts of separating business and personal life. If you don't mix business with pleasure then why are you doing it with your e-mail? How hard is it to check two accounts or have two accounts setup on your phone? There are some lines where business and personal shouldn't cross and e-mail is one of them. How does the appearance look? You send e-mail to foo@business.c…

Most startup founders do not have a separation of business and personal life or have very little separation. When setup properly outgoing emails will be sent from the correct address. There are no security concerns, someone can easily download all their mail if they're trying to get a copy.

Re: How to use Gmail to destroy your relationship with your investors and customers

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Post by jonknee »

overbroad wrote: post #112
icebraining wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My ISP doesn't block port 25, but since my IP address is technically dynamic, it's on Spamhaus' Policy Black List. That said, my ISP offers SMTP servers for proxying outgoing messages, so I used that for a while. I switched to a VPS because my home server died.

Gotta love that Spamhaus logic. Spammers use cheap dynamic IP's therefore anyone with a cheap dynamic IP that sends an email is a spammer. Is it cheaper for you to get a static IP from a VPS than from your ISP?

> Spammers use cheap dynamic IP's therefore anyone with a cheap dynamic IP that sends an email is a spammer

Considering the majority of spam these days is probably sent through botnets, that's a pretty good assumption.

Re: How to use Gmail to destroy your relationship with your investors and customers

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Post by notJim »

staunch wrote: post #103

I keep two tabs open, one for work and one personal. First I login to: https://mail.google.com/ Then I login to https://mail.google.com/a/domain.com Works great if you do it like that, better than if you try clicking "Switch accounts" or whatever.

The switching accounts thing adds a url param too, although it's kind of a drag because the accounts will switch if you log in in a different order.

Re: How to use Gmail to destroy your relationship with your investors and customers

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Post by vlisivka »

icebraining wrote: post #124
overbroad wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gotta love that Spamhaus logic. Spammers use cheap dynamic IP's therefore anyone with a cheap dynamic IP that sends an email is a spammer. Is it cheaper for you to get a static IP from a VPS than from your ISP?

Well, yes, because my ISP only offers static IPs for business contracts, which are more expensive overall, and my VPS only costs $2.3/month (and it doubles as a web server, hosting my personal landing page and an instance of Tiny Tiny RSS).

Which VPS you use?
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