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How to use Gmail to destroy your relationship with your investors and customers

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Re: How to use Gmail to destroy your relationship with your investors and customers

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Post by bosch »

People who do this are really annoying and have no concepts of separating business and personal life. If you don't mix business with pleasure then why are you doing it with your e-mail? How hard is it to check two accounts or have two accounts setup on your phone? There are some lines where business and personal shouldn't cross and e-mail is one of them.

How does the appearance look? You send e-mail to foo@business.com and then funkyjizzbeats20@gmail.com replies to you! What could be more professional than that?

Also, what about security? How would people feel to know you've forwarded an e-mail they sent to a business account to your personal account? Is this just something no one thinks about?

Re: How to use Gmail to destroy your relationship with your investors and customers

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Post by pearkes »

raldi wrote: post #33
pearkes wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They certainly do. I've found that feature to be pretty buggy, personally. Command + tilde is faster than clicking a drop down and waiting for the switch.

What bugs did you run into? I've been doing it for over a year and can't think of any that I've encountered.

When I was using it, not all of their services were supported, and to get into the right account I'd frequently have to log out (which logged me out of every account).

Another fun one was clicking on Google Docs links. It rarely was using the right account and allowed me to go forward. Usually got the "Please request access to this document" message.

Re: How to use Gmail to destroy your relationship with your investors and customers

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Post by pkamb »

aed wrote: post #4

Gmail's handling of multiple accounts is just about the poorest I've seen in any email client. Even Microsoft Outlook handles multiple accounts better!

The worst is their abysmal "On Behalf of:" handling when sending as an @gmail.com address from another @gmail.com address. There is no way around having your "main" email end up in plaintext in the header of every email you send as the "anonymous" email. And anyone replying to you via Outlook replies to the main address. You can send as @yahoo or @hotmail addresses with no evidence of your main gmail account, but for some reason they don't let you with a second gmail address.

Re: How to use Gmail to destroy your relationship with your investors and customers

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Post by MiguelHudnandez »

bosch wrote: post #41

People who do this are really annoying and have no concepts of separating business and personal life. If you don't mix business with pleasure then why are you doing it with your e-mail? How hard is it to check two accounts or have two accounts setup on your phone? There are some lines where business and personal shouldn't cross and e-mail is one of them. How does the appearance look? You send e-mail to foo@business.c…

Gmail allows you to send from your other email addresses through the web interface. It is nice having multiple accounts in the same mailbox so they can share labels.

I don't think it's a violation of trust to have mail forwarded from one account to another account on the same provider. Email does not have an implied amount of security or privacy. Sending email is like sending a postcard--Anyone involved in its transit has the opportunity to read it.

Re: How to use Gmail to destroy your relationship with your investors and customers

#45

Post by phpnode »

DanBC wrote: post #36
Nux wrote: post #19

You don't even need to do much, GMail top posts by default without a way to disable this retarded behaviour.

> this retarded behaviour. HN has an international audience. While the word retarded appears to be common in the US it's an offensive slur in other parts of the world; especially the UK. Please, I'm not telling you not to use it, but I am gently asking you to consider using some other word instead.

Come on, it's absolutely mundane and non offensive to call a thing or a behaviour retarded, it's really only offensive when talking about disabled or unintelligent people. For example:

    "Steven Hawking is retarded" == offensive
    
    "The design of this chair is retarded" == inoffensive

Re: How to use Gmail to destroy your relationship with your investors and customers

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Post by tghw »

spindritf wrote: post #15
tghw wrote: post #11

I ran into this problem as well. So, now, as standard practice, when I set up forwarding between GMail accounts, I add a single filter to the account being forwarded: Matches: -96f0f0036730a7d970a678e8f933e8b7 Do this: Never send it to Spam The string is just a random hex string, the minus (-) tells it to match all messages that do not contain this string. No message should ever contain it, so no message should ever…

That's clever but you can just match is:spam and never send those to spam, essentially turning off the spam filter, not bypassing it. Matches: is:spam Do this: Never send it to Spam

Unfortunately, you can't use "in:", "is:", "label:", or "has:star" in filters. Filters are applied before these things are determined. If you try to, you get the following message from GMail:

Filter searches containing "label:", "in:", "is:", or stars criteria (i.e. "has:yellow-star") are not recommended as they will never match incoming mail. Do you still wish to continue to the next step?

Re: How to use Gmail to destroy your relationship with your investors and customers

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Post by DanBC »

phpnode wrote: post #45
DanBC wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> this retarded behaviour. HN has an international audience. While the word retarded appears to be common in the US it's an offensive slur in other parts of the world; especially the UK. Please, I'm not telling you not to use it, but I am gently asking you to consider using some other word instead.

Come on, it's absolutely mundane and non offensive to call a thing or a behaviour retarded, it's really only offensive when talking about disabled or unintelligent people. For example: "Steven Hawking is retarded" == offensive "The design of this chair is retarded" == inoffensive

I'm not going to try to persuade you that a hateful slur is offensive, even when it's not being used about people.

    "Bob is so gay" == offensive

    "That chair is so gay" == probably still offensive
I'm happy to agree to disagree. You don't think your use of the word is offensive - that's fine. But you don't get to tell me what I (or others) find offensive, and many people find any use of the word retarded offensive.

Perhaps it's a generational thing. Are you young? (Less than 35?)

Re: How to use Gmail to destroy your relationship with your investors and customers

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Post by kylemaxwell »

sbierwagen wrote: post #31
rabidsnail wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been getting increasingly fed up with gmail, but not quite to the point of making me set up exim. Does anybody know of a mail server I can throw on ec2 and forget about?

Many blacklists include all the EC2 addresses: for obvious reasons, they get used to send spam a lot.

But if you're doing it legitimately, and not bulk emailing, EC2 has proper SMTP forwarders you can use. And if you ARE bulk emailing, they have a service (plus you're not using Gmail for that anyway).

Re: How to use Gmail to destroy your relationship with your investors and customers

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Post by kylemaxwell »

pearkes wrote: post #30
k-mcgrady wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pretty sure you can use two regular windows to run separate accounts (although the colour coding would be useful). Another option is running multiple user profiles in Chrome.

Cookies are shared between standard windows (unless there's a way to disable that). Haven't looked into the profiles. Speed of switching would be the most important thing for me.

Well, if you use incognito mode, you can do this. Doesn't scale past n=2 but helpful for many use cases.

Re: How to use Gmail to destroy your relationship with your investors and customers

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Post by jrockway »

niggler wrote: post #12
rabidsnail wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been getting increasingly fed up with gmail, but not quite to the point of making me set up exim. Does anybody know of a mail server I can throw on ec2 and forget about?

I dont think this is a good idea -- if ec2 goes down (as it has in the past) you risk losing email

There's a reason why a domain can have multiple mail exchanger records.
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