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Re: How to use Gmail to destroy your relationship with your investors and customers

#11

Post by tghw » Sat, Oct 06, 2012, 9:02 PM UTC

I ran into this problem as well. So, now, as standard practice, when I set up forwarding between GMail accounts, I add a single filter to the account being forwarded:

    Matches: -96f0f0036730a7d970a678e8f933e8b7
    Do this: Never send it to Spam

The string is just a random hex string, the minus (-) tells it to match all messages that do not contain this string. No message should ever contain it, so no message should ever be sent to spam in the original account. Once it gets to the end account, GMail will still filter it and put it in Spam if it is spam.

Re: How to use Gmail to destroy your relationship with your investors and customers

#12

Post by niggler » Sat, Oct 06, 2012, 9:03 PM UTC

rabidsnail wrote: post #8

recoiledsnake wrote: post #3

Google's spam filter seems to be having more issues these days. I used to ignore the spam filter, but got a reminder email which forced me to check the spam folder, and lo behold there was the email. I always open emails from that person and Gmail marks it as important, I wonder how it could possibly classify it as spam(assuming the email servers remained the same). The funny part was that just a few days prior I rea…

I've been getting increasingly fed up with gmail, but not quite to the point of making me set up exim. Does anybody know of a mail server I can throw on ec2 and forget about?

I dont think this is a good idea -- if ec2 goes down (as it has in the past) you risk losing email

Re: How to use Gmail to destroy your relationship with your investors and customers

#13

Post by rabidsnail » Sat, Oct 06, 2012, 9:06 PM UTC

niggler wrote: post #12

rabidsnail wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been getting increasingly fed up with gmail, but not quite to the point of making me set up exim. Does anybody know of a mail server I can throw on ec2 and forget about?

I dont think this is a good idea -- if ec2 goes down (as it has in the past) you risk losing email

I risk new messages getting bounced, but all of my email is backed up on my computer. And I'd archive everything to s3 (which has never lost data to my knowledge) in case both my ec2 instance and my laptop disappeared.

Re: How to use Gmail to destroy your relationship with your investors and customers

#14

Post by koko775 » Sat, Oct 06, 2012, 9:06 PM UTC

dylanvee wrote: post #10

mmastrac wrote: post #6

If you want to do this reliably, don't use the GMail auto-forward stuff. Instead, create yourself a _filter_ with the following definition: Matches: -{"X5O!P%@AP[4\PZX54(P^)7CC)7}$EICAR-STANDARD-ANTIVIRUS-TEST-FILE!$H+H*"} Do this: Skip Inbox, Forward to XXX, Delete it Your other GMail account will take care of the spam that gets forwarded. I've been doing this for more than a year, with nothing ending up in the acco…

What kind of magic expression is that?

http://www.eicar.org/86-0-Intended-use.html

It's designed to be automatically flagged as a virus, without actually being a virus. I found this with a simple Googling; you can too!

Re: How to use Gmail to destroy your relationship with your investors and customers

#15

Post by spindritf » Sat, Oct 06, 2012, 9:14 PM UTC

tghw wrote: post #11

I ran into this problem as well. So, now, as standard practice, when I set up forwarding between GMail accounts, I add a single filter to the account being forwarded: Matches: -96f0f0036730a7d970a678e8f933e8b7 Do this: Never send it to Spam The string is just a random hex string, the minus (-) tells it to match all messages that do not contain this string. No message should ever contain it, so no message should ever…

That's clever but you can just match is:spam and never send those to spam, essentially turning off the spam filter, not bypassing it.

    Matches: is:spam
    Do this: Never send it to Spam

Re: How to use Gmail to destroy your relationship with your investors and customers

#16

Post by mike-cardwell » Sat, Oct 06, 2012, 9:20 PM UTC

Would probably be a good idea for Google to add an "Include spam?" checkbox in the forwarding settings. Checked by default if the destination address is within gmail, otherwise unchecked by default.

Re: How to use Gmail to destroy your relationship with your investors and customers

#17

Post by beering » Sat, Oct 06, 2012, 9:30 PM UTC

Just check two different accounts. You don't gain much by forwarding from one to the other, but the potential to screw up is higher.

Re: How to use Gmail to destroy your relationship with your investors and customers

#18

Post by case » Sat, Oct 06, 2012, 9:30 PM UTC

aed wrote: post #4

Gmail's handling of multiple accounts is just about the poorest I've seen in any email client. Even Microsoft Outlook handles multiple accounts better!

Mailplane 3 (for Mac) is a great solution to this problem — http://beta.mailplaneapp.com/kb/getting-started/welcome-to-m...

Re: How to use Gmail to destroy your relationship with your investors and customers

#19

Post by Nux » Sat, Oct 06, 2012, 9:34 PM UTC

You don't even need to do much, GMail top posts by default without a way to disable this retarded behaviour.

Re: How to use Gmail to destroy your relationship with your investors and customers

#20

Post by songgao » Sat, Oct 06, 2012, 9:35 PM UTC

I usually set the new Gmail to retrieve email by POP/IMAP from old one, and have a filter defined in the old one:

    Matches: from:(*)
    Do this: Never send it to Spam, Exclude from SmartLabel categorization

In this way, every single email is forwarded to the new account and filters in the new one deals with spams or whatever. But you can always conveniently check mistakenly spammed emails in your new account.