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It’s a tariff on DRIVING in Manhattan, the place in America you least need to drive.
You have never tried to leave the city for the suburbs after 9 pm. Driving is still immensely useful, as I sit in my Uber on the way home.
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"There is no such thing as a free lunch" is a very strong argument for tolls, I hope you realize. > everyone paying the tolls who now needs to engage in additional pollution-causing economic activity merely to offset the costs of government-mandated congestion pricing I don't think that's how economics work. People are already doing their best to generate money. Also even if that did happen, the thing you're describi…
If people aren't working harder to offset the tolls then they're strictly poorer as a consequence of the toll.
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You act like driving in NYC is free even without the congestion price. You realize how much it costs to park in Manhattan right? $50/day? And if you are coming from the Jersey side, you realize how much the toll is for the tunnel? $17-27. So yea, if you're poor, you're not driving your beater to SoHo and parking in a lot for $50 daily.
Most people driving into the city aren’t parking in Manhattan. When I was living in west Chester county, I would drive in into midtown and always find street parking near Columbia, free. I was surprised how easy it was to drive into the city because I heard lots of stories that it wasn’t. No tolls either.
Regressive tax keeps the poor out of area with their older vehicles that pollute more than people who can afford to pay a $9 fee per day. News at 11.
I live in Europe so it's still very much considered pedestrian-friendly, but cars and roads scale so bad. Especially with population density going through the roof in bigger cities. I wonder how it's going to look like in 50 years.
EV self-driving shuttles you can take on demand so nobody needs to keep a car
The fact that tolls are now directly useful to the entire public must not be underappreciated. This is good news for everyone.
The solution was to re-structure the MTA. But that’s hard work. Politicians would rather blame the other side and just raise taxes. The people like it because they are grabbing money from what they consider it to be their oppressors.
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Not in NYC where less than half the population has access to a car.
The congestion tax has far more impact on people who live and work above 60th or in the outer boroughs or NJ than it does Manhattanites. Retail, wholesale, trades, small businesses and yes commuters in these areas, which are poorer than Manhattan, suffer disproportionately
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Which objections lead to better policy?
Which objections were proven wrong?
https://bettercities.substack.com/p/congestion-pricing-is-a-...
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EV self-driving shuttles you can take on demand so nobody needs to keep a car
EVs help with air pollution & congestion, but a huge part of the AQI impact of cars is tires, and I don't think there's a solution for that yet short of "fewer cars"
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I didn’t say every objection was disingenuous, just that there was an incredible number of objections that were.
I'm sure you're being honest about your intent, but a glancing read of your previous comment sounded categorical, to my ear at least, "And they've all been proven false."