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Paramount launches hostile bid for Warner Bros

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Re: Paramount launches hostile bid for Warner Bros

#91

Does WB have to pay the breakup fee to Netflix if a Paramount hostile takeover succeeds?

This has nothing to do with the Netflix bid. Warner bros is being divided into the cable TV stations + discover channel stations and the movie studio and the backlog is separate. Netflix wants the movie studio + tv back catalog

Because WB owns what is left of Newline, that would include LotR and The Hobbit.

Re: Paramount launches hostile bid for Warner Bros

#92

The most concerning aspect for me is the obvious and conspicuously-timed consolidation of these companies under David Ellison. Within the past few months he's taken control of Paramount, CBS, The Free Press, and now he's working on Warner Bros. From everything I've seen he's basically an ideologue, and has already re-structured CBS to align with his vision. Just something that seems very out in the open yet kind of p…

Economic consolidation is one thing, consolidating under a malign foreign ideology is another. Definitely worrying.

Re: Paramount launches hostile bid for Warner Bros

#93
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the political angle of this should not be discounted

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46000977 ( "Larry Ellison discussed axing CNN hosts with White House in takeover bid talks (theguardian.com)" ) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46048351 ( "Larry Ellison Met with Trump to Discuss Which CNN Reporters They Plan to Fire (techdirt.com)" ) Viewing this acquisition in terms of simple revenue alone is like positing Musk bought Twitter for its ad revenue. Total infor…

> Total information control is priceless.

Except there is robust competition in media —be it news, social, etc.

I think the political angle in terms of motivation is overstated. In terms of closing the deal though, it’s huge. David Ellison has been producing movies for quite some time. So his desire to become a big time player in that space would be a believable motivation. But he can use his father’s connections to Trump to sink the Netflix bid (or create enough FUD to convince shareholders to favor his bid).

Re: Paramount launches hostile bid for Warner Bros

#95
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I honestly don't think cbs paramount would be any better, if anything, wb content would be further paywalled and tiered off

Which is why the model that would actually be good for consumers and the model that absolutely no content producer wants which is splitting content creation from distribution isn't going to happen. Let a bunch of companies compete over being the best streaming platform and then let those companies all compete for licensing deals for content. I think a big copyright holders in a strange way actually don't want a repea…

When you make something (eg TV shows), you might also want a direct relationship with your customer (eg viewer). Consequently, A platform where you get to choose how to present and celebrate the stories seems like a reasonable thing.

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#96

> [Paramount say Netflix deal] would lead to “a challenging regulatory approval process.” "Only we have sufficiently greased the current government to get this deal done"

Trump dislikes Paramount, thought? https://deadline.com/2025/12/trump-paramount-60-minutes-davi...

Kushner is involved in the money for the Paramount bid

Re: Paramount launches hostile bid for Warner Bros

#97

For a large enough "donation" the current administration will approve any merger.

Not even large. Trump is cheap. https://www.yahoo.com/news/opinion-makers-turbotax-gave-trum...

FIFA just had to pay for a little trophy

Re: Paramount launches hostile bid for Warner Bros

#98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46000977 ( "Larry Ellison discussed axing CNN hosts with White House in takeover bid talks (theguardian.com)" ) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46048351 ( "Larry Ellison Met with Trump to Discuss Which CNN Reporters They Plan to Fire (techdirt.com)" ) Viewing this acquisition in terms of simple revenue alone is like positing Musk bought Twitter for its ad revenue. Total infor…

> Total information control is priceless. Except there is robust competition in media —be it news, social, etc. I think the political angle in terms of motivation is overstated. In terms of closing the deal though, it’s huge. David Ellison has been producing movies for quite some time. So his desire to become a big time player in that space would be a believable motivation. But he can use his father’s connections to…

> Except there is robust competition in media —be it news, social, etc.

As of a few years ago, there were six corporations owning 90% of US media: NewsCorp, TimeWarner, Comcast, Disney, Viacom, Sony.

* https://www.reddit.com/r/coolguides/comments/fs5g0b/more_tha...

* https://techstartups.com/2020/09/18/6-corporations-control-9...

Add to that local channel ownership (like Sinclair) concentration:

* https://www.gsb.stanford.edu/insights/media-consolidation-me...

* https://www.vox.com/2018/4/6/17202824/sinclair-tribune-map

* https://www.tvtechnology.com/news/broadcasters-urge-fcc-to-h...

This is especially true when it comes to investigative journalism, where it may take weeks or months to run down leads and information.

Re: Paramount launches hostile bid for Warner Bros

#99
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Trump dislikes Paramount, thought? https://deadline.com/2025/12/trump-paramount-60-minutes-davi...

He did until they paid him off, fired people he doesn't like and his buddy bought it.

Trump stated this today:

> My real problem with the show, however, wasn’t the low IQ traitor, it was that the new ownership of 60 Minutes, Paramount, would allow a show like this to air. THEY ARE NO BETTER THAN THE OLD OWNERSHIP, who just paid me millions of Dollars for FAKE REPORTING about your favorite President, ME! Since they bought it, 60 Minutes has actually gotten WORSE! Oh well, far worse things can happen.

Re: Paramount launches hostile bid for Warner Bros

#100

I feel like at some level, it will be much easier to just pir.... I mean... train LLMs based on their content. Yeah. LLM training. That's acceptable. So it really doesn't matter who wins, we'll just perform LLM training.

I'm LLM training right now!
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