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Bikeshedding, or why I want to build a laptop

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Re: Bikeshedding, or why I want to build a laptop

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post #15

I wonder why ThinkPads are not mentioned. It's not like I recommend them (I mean, I use one, but it's not like I've tried most laptops out there, so who I am to judge), but I was under the impression it's still a de-facto Linux laptop standard.

On his video channel he shows 4 laptops, including a ThinkPad Carbon, about which he said "it costed way too much considering what it delivered"

Re: Bikeshedding, or why I want to build a laptop

#112

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There's no reason such a laptop can't be repairable. Sure, it may be harder to do, but that's the tradeoff you choose when buying such a device. The main obstacles to repairability in such devices are intentional : part serialization, lack of documentation, and so on. Those don't help making the device any more compact or easier to manufacture, it's pure greed. Address those problems and you can happily have your ult…

There is such a reason: it isn't modular enough for the economics to favor repair over replacement, what with the economies of scale and that.

Restricting access to documentation, part serialization, or restricting OEMs from selling components directly has nothing to do with laptop form factor though.

Whether repair of such devices is economically viable is one thing and that's up to the market to decide, but making repair intentionally harder is a choice of the manufacturer and has nothing to do with how slim the laptop is.

Re: Bikeshedding, or why I want to build a laptop

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> I've never been happy with a trackpad: they feel too imprecise Everything non-Apple is. Apple's trackpad are great and have been for decades. I’ve done professional image editing on the go even with the tiny by today’s standards PowerBook G4s trackpads. The real tragedy of our industry is that Apple got the basics right a few decades ago but seems determined to make their OS worse for pro user with every release. Y…

I see this comment about how awesome Apple Trackpads are all the time here, and just assumed I was missing out because I'd never used a MacBook. But I got given a MacBook Pro recently for work, and I'm super underwhelmed. The trackpad on it is no better or worse than any other trackpad I've used.

I find it worse, because it's far too big for me... the thinkpad T series one is acceptable.

What I'd want in a hack laptop is a full size TKL keyboard (and full height, or close), with a trackpoint (or 2 -- add one near the arrow keys).

Re: Bikeshedding, or why I want to build a laptop

#114
post #90

I think the kind of laptop this person wishes should simply be made illegal to make. We cannot sustain having all electric devices being thrown after a year or two, these things need to last, to be repairable and make it easy to grab pieces and materials when they die anyway

Heck most people won’t be upgrading every few years, the m1 Macs are still plenty good today, it sounds like this guy just wants a MacBook Pro that runs highly tuned Unix based OS that is not macOS

Re: Bikeshedding, or why I want to build a laptop

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There is such a reason: it isn't modular enough for the economics to favor repair over replacement, what with the economies of scale and that.

Restricting access to documentation, part serialization, or restricting OEMs from selling components directly has nothing to do with laptop form factor though. Whether repair of such devices is economically viable is one thing and that's up to the market to decide, but making repair intentionally harder is a choice of the manufacturer and has nothing to do with how slim the laptop is.

The reason is simple: corporate control. It's not a good reason.

If only you could take a big old stick and beat the "control freak" tendencies out of all the major corporations out there.

Re: Bikeshedding, or why I want to build a laptop

#117
Of course different strokes for different folks. My favorite laptop at this point is a terminal for my home workstation which is far more powerful than anything mobile. That means I prioritize decent graphical performance, OLED screen, long battery life, and I don't really mind too much using WSL in Windows. All my development doesn't really happen locally any more.

Re: Bikeshedding, or why I want to build a laptop

#118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Restricting access to documentation, part serialization, or restricting OEMs from selling components directly has nothing to do with laptop form factor though. Whether repair of such devices is economically viable is one thing and that's up to the market to decide, but making repair intentionally harder is a choice of the manufacturer and has nothing to do with how slim the laptop is.

The reason is simple: corporate control. It's not a good reason. If only you could take a big old stick and beat the "control freak" tendencies out of all the major corporations out there.

Sorry I wasn't clear, my point is: that reason is completely separate from a laptop's form factor or method of construction.

You can have a somewhat repairable laptop even if it's slim and tightly integrated, and you can also have a completely unrepairable one even if all components are modular and accessible but then use strong cryptography to authenticate to each other.

Form factor is not the primary reason current tech is hard/impossible to repair, though the industry loves that people believe so, since it diverts attention from their intentional efforts to hinder repair.

Re: Bikeshedding, or why I want to build a laptop

#119
post #38

I mostly think of when geohot wanted to make his own RISC-V core and cranked out some basic verilog. It was incomplete and barely commented, and never touched again. I suspect we are going to get a few blog posts of analysis and then he moves on to something else

I think you missed the last paragraph.

Re: Bikeshedding, or why I want to build a laptop

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post #115

The naming fails at big cos is simply caused by having internal branding teams that need to justify their existence.

No, it's more like they sell to a bunch of verticals and they have checklist-orientated market segmentation where they can eke out a little extra profit selling a specific line to a specific industry because they need a specific doodad or certification.
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