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Bikeshedding, or why I want to build a laptop

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Re: Bikeshedding, or why I want to build a laptop

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Your attention is drawn to https://system76.com/

I'd love to hear people compare their system76 laptop to a Macbook, but it's really hard to find recommendations that don't just grade their non-Macbook on a curve just because it's not one.

Edit: Way too many issues on r/system76.

Re: Bikeshedding, or why I want to build a laptop

#83

> Consumer electronics naming is very simple. Make a good product with a simple name. “iPhone”, “comma”, “Z Fold”. Then every year or two, add one to the number of that product. If it’s a small refresh, you can add a letter after the number. “2 3 3X 4” “4 4s 5 5s 6 …” “2 3 4 5 6 7” Why is this so hard for companies like HP? Oh man I feel this every time there’s a games console launch. I still have no idea what the la…

What to expect, when Microsoft decides to do stupid things like renaming .NET Core into .NET 5, thus everyone that doesn't pay attention to Microsoft world keeps thinking .NET is Windows only, as the .NET Framework was always known as plain .NET in most circles.

Re: Bikeshedding, or why I want to build a laptop

#84

Honestly if you actually need high end specs then you should just build a PC. "16 core Zen 5 CPU, 40 core RDNA 3.5 GPU. 64GB of LPDDR5X RAM @ 256 GB/s + stunning OLED" - Easily done as a pc build. In a world where you can get this laptop with Linux, there's a new set of trade-offs - - be prepared for a LOT of things not working because the size of the market for extremely expensive configurations with high end CPU +…

Is his build even possible today in a laptop? In a desktop, you would need a top of the line threadripper for that 256GB/s of memory bandwidth. Consumer grade Zen 5 desktops reach only about 80GB/s in real world testing, with a theoretical max of slightly over 100GB/s.

Yes. OneXfly apex. Amd 395+, oled panel.

Re: Bikeshedding, or why I want to build a laptop

#85

> Consumer electronics naming is very simple. Make a good product with a simple name. “iPhone”, “comma”, “Z Fold”. Then every year or two, add one to the number of that product. If it’s a small refresh, you can add a letter after the number. “2 3 3X 4” “4 4s 5 5s 6 …” “2 3 4 5 6 7” Why is this so hard for companies like HP? Oh man I feel this every time there’s a games console launch. I still have no idea what the la…

You know as a company that you have gone out of the ability to create something if you come up first with name changes of existing products. Looking at you, Office (or whatever your name is today).

Re: Bikeshedding, or why I want to build a laptop

#86
The framework model is the reasonable approach to people being finnicky about their laptop specs. You can't sustain "I want it just so" and "it needs to be a cnc-machined glued together brick, engineered to the last gramme" at the same time, without a step change in how we build hardware, but the framework comes pretty close

If linux power management got a bit better, and there was a good arm chip, it would be a great machine. Now it's just pretty good

Re: Bikeshedding, or why I want to build a laptop

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I'm holding out a little bit of hope that Valve puts out a laptop - the Steam Deck has notably good power management for a linux device of its class (and I've even heard of people using them as laptop replacements), though the idle power is still higher than a Macbook. They're going to have made a desktop, gaming handheld, and VR device; why not one more?

Maybe they will spend more than five cents and get a decent hinge? I would love to support Valve if the build quality is good and the price is decent.

Re: Bikeshedding, or why I want to build a laptop

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How’s the battery life?

The old ones had hot-swappable batteries (a second internal battery - of decent size - kept the device going while you replaced the external one). I used to keep a couple of extra 50 Wh batteries in my backpack and therefore had excellent battery life. The power efficiency wasn't great though. I now have a Z13 Gen 1 (AMD 6850U) running Fedora and the battery life is passable. It draws 7-8W at idle from a 51 Wh batter…

So the battery life wasn't excellent.

My laptop can go on for days as well as long as I plug it in to a power bank. I just need to lug them around, defeating the purpose.

Re: Bikeshedding, or why I want to build a laptop

#89
Different priorities I suppose but I'd absolutely hate using that laptop. I want something designed to last, not be thrown out in a few years. IDK when it became cool to just expect everyone to have the money or care to buy a new every few years. I guess it makes more money but since that seems to be the only thing companies with a marketing budget do people have forgotten there's an actual market for well built electronics that will at least survive 5 years

Re: Bikeshedding, or why I want to build a laptop

#90
I think the kind of laptop this person wishes should simply be made illegal to make. We cannot sustain having all electric devices being thrown after a year or two, these things need to last, to be repairable and make it easy to grab pieces and materials when they die anyway
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