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Cloudflare Down Again – and DownDetector Is Also Down

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Re: Cloudflare Down Again – and DownDetector Is Also Down

#71
How are these clowns deploying stuff on a Friday, it is unbelievable to me. It is not even funny any more. It seems cloudflare is held together by marketing only. They should stop all of these stupid initiatives and keep their stack simple.

And I'm 100% sure the management responsible for this is already fueling up the ferraris to drive to their beach house. All of us make them rich and they keep on enshittifying their product out of pure hubris.

Re: Cloudflare Down Again – and DownDetector Is Also Down

#73

You know what, maybe AI is taking all the goddamn jobs

They’re a global company that offshores with location based pay and utilizes H1Bs. I think that’s the first thing to look at. You get what you pay for.

Stop trying to devalue labor. Not much sympathy when you’re obviously cutting corners.

Re: Cloudflare Down Again – and DownDetector Is Also Down

#74

The old guard has left as they we too much of an expense in this cost-cutting age... without mentors, crap creeps in and now we are seeing what happens when people don't know how things work, are in charge...

Why not build the next cloudflare then, I'm sure it is appreciated by HN folks.

Re: Cloudflare Down Again – and DownDetector Is Also Down

#76
post #21

You know what, maybe AI is taking all the goddamn jobs

They pretty much said this. All the big companies that had recent outages are companies that publicly embraced vibe coding.

In the 80s, a "series" of fires broke out and destroyed many homes and businesses in England, all of which having a print of a painting known as 'The Crying Boy'. The painting has ever since been rumoured to be haunted.

Obviously, 'The Crying Boy' was not the cause of the fires, it was just that most homes in the 80s England had that print, as it was a popular one, and people found a pattern where there wasn't one.

Re: Cloudflare Down Again – and DownDetector Is Also Down

#77
post #33

> A change made to how Cloudflare's Web Application Firewall parses requests caused Cloudflare's network to be unavailable for several minutes this morning. This was not an attack; the change was deployed by our team to help mitigate the industry-wide vulnerability disclosed this week in React Server Components. We will share more information as we have it today.

does this mean we can blame React Server Components for something new?

Listen to the sound of HN hawks erupting with joy when they realize they can blame JS, React, RSC, Rust, Cloudflare, and the cloud all for one outage.

Re: Cloudflare Down Again – and DownDetector Is Also Down

#78
post #73

You know what, maybe AI is taking all the goddamn jobs

They’re a global company that offshores with location based pay and utilizes H1Bs. I think that’s the first thing to look at. You get what you pay for. Stop trying to devalue labor. Not much sympathy when you’re obviously cutting corners.

Just because someone is on an H1B visa doesn't mean they know less. It's a bit rich to blame this on foreign workers even though nothing is known about who or what caused this outage.

Re: Cloudflare Down Again – and DownDetector Is Also Down

#79
post #56

Internet is no longer decenstralised. Some interesting DNS data https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46159249

Hence why I wrote a post on 18th of Nov (previous Cloudflare outage): https://huijzer.xyz/posts/123/do-not-put-your-site-behind-cl... . That blog post made it to the front page of HN and my site did not go down. Nor did any DDoS network take the site out even though I also challenged them last time by commenting that I would be okay with a DDoS. I would figure out a way around it. In general, marketing often works vi…

Cloudflare is widely used because it's the easiest way to run a website for free or expose local services to internet. I think for most cloudflare users, the ddos protection is not the main reason they're using it.

Re: Cloudflare Down Again – and DownDetector Is Also Down

#80
post #74

The old guard has left as they we too much of an expense in this cost-cutting age... without mentors, crap creeps in and now we are seeing what happens when people don't know how things work, are in charge...

Why not build the next cloudflare then, I'm sure it is appreciated by HN folks.

Or maybe we just move away from cloudflare-like services altogether.
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