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Cloudflare Down Again – and DownDetector Is Also Down

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Re: Cloudflare Down Again – and DownDetector Is Also Down

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They pretty much said this. All the big companies that had recent outages are companies that publicly embraced vibe coding.

This ignores all the companies that publicly embraced vibe coding and did NOT have outages. Not a huge fan of vibe coding, but let's keep the populism to minimum here.

On top of that, humans are more than capable of causing high-impact outages as well. (It's easier with massive unforced centralization, of course.)

Re: Cloudflare Down Again – and DownDetector Is Also Down

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downdetectors downdetector shows that downdector should not be down. Something is wrong here. https://downdetectorsdowndetector.com/

downdetectorsdowndetector.com does not load the results as part of the HTML, nor does it do any API requests to retrieve the status. Instead, the obfuscated javascript code contains a `generateMockStatus()` function that has parts like `responseTimeMs: randomInt(...)` and a hardcoded `status: up` / `httpStatus: 200`. I didn't reverse-engineer the entire script, but based on it incorrectly showing downdetector.com as being up today, I'm pretty sure that downdetectorsdowndetector.com is just faking the results.

downdetectorsdowndetectorsdowndetector.com and downdetectorsdowndetectorsdowndetectorsdowndetector.com seem like they might be legit. One has the results in the HTML, the other fetches some JSON from a backend (`status4.php`).

Re: Cloudflare Down Again – and DownDetector Is Also Down

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Internet is no longer decenstralised. Some interesting DNS data https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46159249

Hence why I wrote a post on 18th of Nov (previous Cloudflare outage): https://huijzer.xyz/posts/123/do-not-put-your-site-behind-cl... . That blog post made it to the front page of HN and my site did not go down. Nor did any DDoS network take the site out even though I also challenged them last time by commenting that I would be okay with a DDoS. I would figure out a way around it. In general, marketing often works vi…

Yes, marketing often works via fear. And decision making in organizations often works through blame shifting and diffusion of accountability. So organizations will just stick with centralization and Cloudfare, AWS, Microsoft et al regardless of technical concerns.

Re: Cloudflare Down Again – and DownDetector Is Also Down

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https://downdetectorsdowndetectorsdowndetectorsdowndetector.... reports that https://downdetectorsdowndetectorsdowndetector.com/ is down, guessing downdetectorsdowndetectorsdowndetector runs via cloudflare!

I don't understand, why don't they just make the whole internet out of down detectors?
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