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Micron Announces Exit from Crucial Consumer Business

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Post by prmoustache »

healthy_throw wrote: post #264
squigz wrote: post #259

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> Actually, his experience is the standard PC enthusiast experience for the vast majority of DIY'ers in many nations. I have to genuinely question this. I haven't heard of anyone I know buying PC components at a physical store in like 20 years, and I know people from various nations.

Last local walking distance shop closed earlier this year (city in Germany). Used to go there for parts needed on short notice: mouse, cables etc. Not sure if there are many left now in this city that stock components like motherboards, gfx cards or RAM.

Aren't mediamarkt still selling computer parts in Germany? Maybe not ram and mother boards but in my city in Spain Mediamarkt still sell all the peripherals, some internal drives and cabling at the very least.

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Post by nextaccountic »

AnthonyMouse wrote: post #243
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #233

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Apple CPUs come with their own GPUs on die and RAM in the chip package now. How much more is going to be put on the chip and assembled in increasingly fine grained processes?

Apple puts the RAM in the chip package because they integrate the GPU, and then they want to be able to have multiple channels to feed the GPU without having that many slots. (Their entry level models also don't have any more memory bandwidth than normal PC laptops and there is no real reason they couldn't use a pair of SODIMMs.) But low end iGPUs don't need a lot of memory bandwidth (again witness Apple's entry leve…

> integrating high end GPUs makes you thermally limited.

Even if you have a surface area equivalent to a high end cpu and high end gpu, combined in a single die?

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Post by xethos »

xp84 wrote: post #278
xethos wrote: post #234

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In Canada, BC's lower mainland (and parts of Ontario, Alberta, and a few others I can't speak of first-hand) have both Memory Express and Canada Computers. We used to have NCIX as well, though they've left (at least) BC

I think NCIX left the realm of the living entirely

You're right, per Wikipedia. I guess I saw an old sign or something on a trip through Ontario (or it was just a long day).

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Post by doom2 »

kelnos wrote: post #252
venturecruelty wrote: post #72

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Why would anyone sell a handful of GPUs to nobodies like us when they could sell a million GPUs for thousands apiece to a handful of big companies? We're speedrunning the absolute worst corpo cyberpunk timeline.

Because when you lose even one of those big companies in your handful, it tanks your business. Customer diversity is a good thing. And they're not selling a handful of GPUs to nobodies like us; they're selling millions of GPUs to millions of nobodies.

> Customer diversity is a good thing.

Tell that to Micron.

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Post by georgefrowny »

healthy_throw wrote: post #264
squigz wrote: post #259

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Actually, his experience is the standard PC enthusiast experience for the vast majority of DIY'ers in many nations. I have to genuinely question this. I haven't heard of anyone I know buying PC components at a physical store in like 20 years, and I know people from various nations.

Last local walking distance shop closed earlier this year (city in Germany). Used to go there for parts needed on short notice: mouse, cables etc. Not sure if there are many left now in this city that stock components like motherboards, gfx cards or RAM.

> Used to go there for parts needed on short notice

Which is why they shut down - the addressable market of people having an emergency need for an item from a limited selection of electronics isn't that big, and that's becoming the only market.

It's not your fault that you don't want to pay over the odds for everything when you're not in a rush, and it's not their fault they need to pay commercial rent, utilities, payroll, insurance and all the other overheads.

But the outcome is simply that staffed local physical shops have a lower efficiency ceiling in terms of getting items to customers.

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Post by prmoustache »

Aeolun wrote: post #231
mh- wrote: post #176

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I'm curious where you live. Anecdotally, this is the opposite to the experience of everyone I know.

I can do this in in Tokyo, and even small town Netherlands. Though in the last I’ll only have a choice between two different crappy mouses.

I think that is the main difference: choice

30 years ago you would buy what was available locally, possibly you could obtain from the shop owner that he orders a part from his distributor's catalog and that was it. And we weren't giving it much second thought.

Now when we know we can obtain any brand or any model online we are much more picky about our component choices. I know for me it is the same in other areas I am knowledgeable like bicycle parts. Regardless of the price more often than not the local bike shop doesn't have the exact tire model I want so if I am not in a hurry I order online. I wasn't unhappy buying whatever was available back in the days as it was just not a possibility and I had less knowledge about what was available, even when receiving magazines every month. Ignorance is bliss sometimes.

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Post by kstrauser »

robotresearcher wrote: post #256
LargoLasskhyfv wrote: post #222

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Huh... I did that, too :) And before that I duct-taped the insanely large 16KB RAM extension (from 1KB), so it doesn't reset with the slightest movement, on my Sinclair ZX81, which I've also assembled and soldered from a kit :)

A fellow survivor of RAM-pack wobble!

There are dozens of us!

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Post by fransje26 »

knowitnone3 wrote: post #147
Animats wrote: post #10

Wow. They're not selling off the business, they're totally exiting it. This is a big loss. Crucial offered a supply chain direct from Micron. Most other consumer DRAM sources pass through middlemen, where fake parts and re-labeled rejects can be inserted.

and when the AI boom pops, Micron is going to lose out on the consumer market. This is a horrible business decision. All they had to do was increase the price.

Pop already! Let's get all this nonsense over with.

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Post by gregoryl »

RossBencina wrote: post #285
squigz wrote: post #259

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> Actually, his experience is the standard PC enthusiast experience for the vast majority of DIY'ers in many nations. I have to genuinely question this. I haven't heard of anyone I know buying PC components at a physical store in like 20 years, and I know people from various nations.

I'm in Melbourne, I can ride my bike a few kilometers and buy standard PC parts. Not everyone here lives that close to a store, but there are multiple established chains with stores all over the metropolitan area. Even so these stores probably do the bulk of business in online sales.

I recently discovered Scorptec has a "total spend" under Account => Order History. Horrifying! Ublock to the rescue, ##.total-amount.card-title.
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