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Anthropic acquires Bun

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Re: Anthropic acquires Bun

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Post by andrewl-hn »

andrewl-hn wrote: post #59
zelphirkalt wrote: post #39

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Then it would probably be back to Poetry. Or some other newcomer, or maybe a fork of uv.

Honestly, given the constant rollercoaster of version management and building tools for Python the move to something else would be expected rather than surprising. I’ve seems like a great tool, but I remember thinking the same about piping, too.

Autocorrect messed up my last line, should say:

uv seems like a great tool, but I remember thinking the same about pipenv, too.

Re: Anthropic acquires Bun

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Post by throwup238 »

nly wrote: post #849
mayo369 wrote: post #711

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Maybe same for anthropic, they can simply write agent using Rust/Go. Instead they decide to buy and develop a JavaScript runtime.

If anything this seems to be a huge victory for Zig, since Bun is mostly written in Zig.

That’s just what the Javascript ecosystem has been missing! A runtime built on an unstable pre-1.0 language to go with the npm dependency churn. It’s been way too long since I’ve had to waste a week debugging what turns out to be a compiler/interpreter bug.

(I’m half joking, that’s awesome for Zig!)

Re: Anthropic acquires Bun

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Post by theshrike79 »

Aurornis wrote: post #566
vector_spaces wrote: post #469

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I am not your target with this question (I don't write Zig) but there is a spectrum of LLM usage for coding. It is possible to use LLMs extensively but almost never ship LLM generated code, except for tiny trivial functions. One can use them for ideation, quick research, or prototypes/starting places, and then build on that. That is how I use them, anyway Culturally I see pure vibe coders as intersecting more with en…

> Culturally I see pure vibe coders as intersecting more with entrepreneurfluencer types who are non-technical but trying to extend their capabilities. Most technical folks I know are fairly disillusioned with pure vibe coding, but that's my corner of the world, YMMV Anyone who has spent time working with LLMs knows that the LinkedIn-style vibecoding where someone writes prompts and hits enter until they ship an app…

Working with Agentic LLMs is exactly the same skillset as directing junior programmers or offshore consultants.

You get a feel for how much direction they need after working for a while and tooling and accessible documentation is really important for quality.

Then you give them a task and review the results. In (backend/systems) programming it's pretty binary whether a solution works or not, it's not a matter of taste but something you can just validate with hard data.

I've done so many tiny/small/medium sized utilities for myself in the last year it's crazy[0]. A good bunch of them are 95-100% vibecoded, meaning I was just the "project manager" instructing what features I want and letting the agent(s) make it work.

I think I have a pretty good feel for the main agentic systems and what they can do in the context of what I do so I know what to tell them and how - each has its own distinct way of working and using the wrong one for the wrong job is either stupid, frustrating or just a waste of time.

[0] https://indieweb.org/make_what_you_need

Re: Anthropic acquires Bun

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Post by theshrike79 »

lupire wrote: post #529
dijit wrote: post #476

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fwiw, copilots licence only explicitly permits using its suggestions the way you say. putting everyone using the generated outputs into a sort of unofficial grey market: even when using first-party tools. Which is weird.

Can you link to more info about this?

Might be related to the fact that AI generated content has no copyright by law.

Nobody knows WHO has the copyright but it's been decided in courts that AI definitely doesn't own it.

Re: Anthropic acquires Bun

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Post by airstrike »

ramoz wrote: post #890
hoppp wrote: post #497

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It's fine but why is Js a good language for agents? I mean sure its faster than python but wouldn't something that compiles to native be much better?

The answer is typescript is a much simpler and more pleasant developer experience than any other language. These are products they need to, and often originate from, fast churn of code/features. Otherwise they’d be building these types of things in Rust.

Surely you jest

Re: Anthropic acquires Bun

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Post by ramoz »

airstrike wrote: post #896
ramoz wrote: post #890

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The answer is typescript is a much simpler and more pleasant developer experience than any other language. These are products they need to, and often originate from, fast churn of code/features. Otherwise they’d be building these types of things in Rust.

Surely you jest

I wrote the comment while waiting on a 50min rust build pipeline

Re: Anthropic acquires Bun

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Post by soapdog »

oh, I really dislike that. I don't want AI companies encroaching more in my development workflow. Used to really enjoy Bun, but don't want support Anthropic at all. Will switch back to another runtime.
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