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Re: Anthropic acquires Bun

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Post by speed_spread »

mythz wrote: post #709
yellow_lead wrote: post #546

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Java can run anywhere too

AI tools value simplicity, fast bootstrapping and iterations, this rules out the JVM which has the worst build system and package repositories I've ever had the displeasure of needing to use. Check in gradle binaries in 2025? Having to wait days for packages to sync? Windows/Linux gradle wrappers for every project? Broken builds and churn after every major upgrade. It's broken beyond repair. By contrast `bun install`…

By using Gradle you certainly didn't make yourself a favor.

Re: Anthropic acquires Bun

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Post by miguelspizza »

locknitpicker wrote: post #671
chatmasta wrote: post #501

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JS has the fastest, most robust and widely deployed sandboxing engines (V8, followed closely by JavaScriptCore which is what Bun uses). It also has TypeScript which pairs well with agentic coding loops, and compiles to the aforementioned JavaScript which can run pretty much anywhere.

> It also has TypeScript which pairs well with agentic coding loops, (...) I've heard that TypeScript is pretty rough on agentic coding loops because the idiomatic static type assertion code ends up requiring huge amounts of context to handle in a meaningful way. Is there any truth to it?

Not sure where you heard this but general sentiment is the opposite.

There was recently a conference which was themed around the idea that typescript monorepos are the best way to build with AI

Re: Anthropic acquires Bun

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Post by komali2 »

shortrounddev2 wrote: post #726
komali2 wrote: post #724

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But like... so can an index.html with a script tag? Am I missing something, where did you read that there was a lot of work involving the header or an attached marketing blog?

index.html with script files would still benefit from a bundler. You can have a very minimal react footprint and still want to use react build tools just for bundling.

Sure, but I'm more confused about the next.js usage than I am about the bundler. The bundler makes sense.

Re: Anthropic acquires Bun

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Post by miguelspizza »

chamomeal wrote: post #548
mrcsharp wrote: post #532

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> It also has TypeScript which pairs well with agentic coding loops The language syntax has nothing to do with it pairing well with agentic coding loops. Considering how close Typescript and C# are syntactically, and C#'s speed advantage over JS among many other things would make C# the main language for building Agents. It is not and that's because the early SDKs were JS and Python.

Typescript is probably generally a good LLM language because - static types - tons and tons of training data Kind of tangent but I used to think static types were a must-have for LLM generated code. But the most magical and impressively awesome thing I’ve seen for LLM code generation is “calva backseat driver”, a vscode extension that lets copilot evaluate clojure expressions and generally do REPL stuff. It can write…

Clojure is such an underrated language for vibe coding for this very reason.

Makes me wonder what a theoretical “best possible language for vibe coding” would look like

Re: Anthropic acquires Bun

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Post by tomnipotent »

abnercoimbre wrote: post #625
kopochameleon wrote: post #572

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Finding this comment interesting, parent comment didn't suggest any past association but it seemingly uses project reference as pivot point to do various outgroup counter signaling / neg bun?

I understand the concern, but really? I found this quote enough to offer proper comments: > had a vague idea that "Zig people" were generally "Software You Can Love" or "Handmade Software Movement" types Folks at Bun are "Zig people" for obvious reasons, and a link was made with Handmade software. This happened multiple times before with Bun specifically, so my response is not a "pivot" of any kind. I've highlighted…

> and a link was made with Handmade software

I'm willing to wager that 99.99% of readers do not associate "Handmade" with the org you're associated with, and that most didn't know it existed until this comment. So yes "really", without OP replying, it's understandable that the poster you're replying inferred it had nothing to do with you.

Re: Anthropic acquires Bun

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Post by biofunsf »

abnercoimbre wrote: post #484
losvedir wrote: post #446

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I'm sort of surprised to see that you used Claude Code so much. I had a vague idea that "Zig people" were generally "Software You Can Love" or "Handmade Software Movement" types, about small programs, exquisitely hand-written, etc, etc. And I know Bun started with an extreme attention to detail around performance. I would have thought LLM-generated code would run a bit counter to both of those. I had sort of carved t…

Handmade Cities founder here. We never associated with Bun other than extending an invitation to rent a job booth at a conference: this was years ago when I had a Twitter account, so it's fair if Jarred doesn't remember. If Handmade Cities had the opportunity to collaborate with Bun today, we would not take it, even prior to this acquisition. HMC wants to level up systems while remaining performant, snappy and butter…

I might missing some context. Just to check my understanding: HMC and Bun aren't a good match anymore because Bun devs use LLM/AI tooling more than HMC? Basically to really level up a system is incompatible these tools? (IYHO)

Thank you! I appreciated how you wrote up this clarifying.

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Post by joshcsimmons »

pier25 wrote: post #417

I wonder what this means for Deno. Will this make it more or less likely for people to use Bun vs Deno? And now that Bun doesn't need to run a profitable cloud company will they move faster and get ahead of Deno?

Deno is dead. Seems like there haven't been very relevant or user-informed changes on their roadmap for year(s) now.

Re: Anthropic acquires Bun

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Post by anamexis »

komali2 wrote: post #729
anamexis wrote: post #683

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Perhaps my biggest claim to fame is being #11 on the bash.org top 100.

Hah, found it: https://bash-org-archive.com/?207373 So how did it work back in the day, people would just submit text and it would get upvoted? I always assumed like half of them were just made up.

Yep, exactly that. I recall that the voting was interesting because it was just ranked on absolute number of votes, no time decay or anything, so it would take quite some time for a new contender to accumulate votes to "compete" on the leaderboard. I don't remember if there were even accounts or if anyone could just vote repeatedly, modulo some IP or cookie-based limits.

As far provenance, I assume a lot of them were made up too, but this one was real.

Re: Anthropic acquires Bun

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Post by johncolanduoni »

komali2 wrote: post #724
johncolanduoni wrote: post #719

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He may have been serving a game in a canvas hosted in a Next.js app, but have done all the actual game (rendering, simulation, etc.) in something else. That’s a decent approach - Next can handle the header of the webpage and the marketing blog or whatever just fine.

But like... so can an index.html with a script tag? Am I missing something, where did you read that there was a lot of work involving the header or an attached marketing blog?

My point isn’t that you absolutely need that, just that the negative effect on your game development are pretty minimal if you’re not leaning on the SPA framework for anything related to the game. If your game is going to be embedded into an otherwise normal-ish website, this isn’t a terrible way to go (I’ve done it personally with a game mostly written in Rust and compiled to WASM). You can get gains by splitting your game and web site bundles and loading the former from the latter explicitly, but they’re not massive if your bundler was already reasonably incremental (or was already esbuild).

Thanks for assuming I “read” about bundlers somewhere, though. I’ve been using (and configuring) them since they existed.

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