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Apple to beat Samsung in smartphone shipments for first time in 14 years

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Re: Apple to beat Samsung in smartphone shipments for first time in 14 years

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Post by tooltalk »

dialup_sounds wrote: post #37
gmueckl wrote: post #16

So dark patterns to increase peer pressure and hard vendor lock in work then: exploiting networking effects and social pressure like green vs. blue bubbles, technically unnecessary hard requirements for other devices that are locked into the same garden prison, random compatibility restrictions/omissions in built in apps etc. Apple really is far from innocent. They just pull their customers over the table in such a s…

Weird take. Android is still ~80% of the market.

very weird indeed. Apple has ~20% of the global smartphone sales, but 80% of global industry profit.

pareto?

Re: Apple to beat Samsung in smartphone shipments for first time in 14 years

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Post by jm4 »

jimnotgym wrote: post #49
jm4 wrote: post #46

I don’t know how Samsung has been getting away with it for so long. They have this stellar reputation as a premium brand when they are more akin to Roku. Their software experience is among the worst in the industry. Their hardware isn’t as good as people perceive it to be either. I bought 5 of their TV’s and there aren’t 2 that display colors the same way with the exact same settings. The quality is abysmal.

I saw a set of reasonably high end 'Colour True' monitors, and they all looked markedly different until they were profiled. Did you compare to a set of other companies TVs before deciding Samsung was garbage?

What does testing some other brand have to do with anything? If I put 5 of the exact same TV’s next to each other and they all look different, they are objectively bad quality. Maybe someone else makes something better or worse, but the ones in front of me are still bad. I literally had all these screens next to each other displaying the same image. It was not possible to adjust them so they all looked the same. The lighting inside the screens wasn’t even consistent. They had different hotspots.

Re: Apple to beat Samsung in smartphone shipments for first time in 14 years

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Post by poisonborz »

They were solid top in quality for 15 years for Android. DeX, pen features, camera software was solid. OneUI became very customizeable. But it was stably boring at best, and atrocious at worst, and they couldn't ship any other standout feature that wasn't scrapped soon after.

Now they shipped the same camera on their most sold flagship phone 3 years in a row, same battery size for 5 years. Flip-flopping between Qualcomm CPUs as their own couldn't compete after years of trying. They don't deserve the spot they have for quite some time now.

Re: Apple to beat Samsung in smartphone shipments for first time in 14 years

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Post by giancarlostoro »

check1234123 wrote: post #50
giancarlostoro wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I got tired of Android after 9 years of being Android only. I just wanted a phone that worked. Apple made said phone. Android feels like your younger cousin's sketchy Windows computer. I remember changing from like 2 different Android phones over a period of 4 years or so, and my amazing megapixel photos looked nowhere near as good as my cousins 5-year-old iPhone photos.

I switched to IPhone 13 pro 3.5 years ago and I have the completely opposite experience. It doesn’t “just work”. - Swipe typing is so horrible I had to disable it. - Notifications are extremely large and you have less control over what type of notifications you want to receive. - You can’t transfer files by simply connecting your phone to a PC. - Videos played in Safari don’t automatically rotate to landscape mode (n…

> - You can’t set alarm on a certain date.

I have some alarms for specific dates, do you mean a single use alarm?

> - You can only snooze the alarm for 9 minutes (I think you can configure this in iOS26, but this was unacceptable even 5 years ago)

To this day I miss one alarm that LG phones had where it would make me do more work to even dismiss it, on purpose, because I am known to just turn it off and keep sleeping.

> - Hotspot automatically disconnects even with a Macbook (Windows/Linux is much worse). I used to live without home internet relying on hotspot feature. IPhone hotspot proved to be extremely unreliable.

I have not had this issue, though I did have the issue of not realizing that since I had bought my phone through Apple instead of through T-Mobile my data / hotspot plan was not the right one, I realized this after I left T-Mobile for Mint, but I rarely if ever use hotspot.

> - Swipe typing is so horrible I had to disable it.

I had the 12 Pro and now the 17 Pro, I rarely do swipe typing, voice to text is slightly more annoying, I would hope that in this world of AI that Apple would improve their voice to text, it just doesn't hear me at all half of the time.

> - You can’t transfer files by simply connecting your phone to a PC.

Apple has always been all about being on Apple, so yeah, though I have gotten my Linux to mount files from the iPhone before, doesn't look pretty at all mind you, but I can take a rough but full snapshot of all my images on my phone..

Re: Apple to beat Samsung in smartphone shipments for first time in 14 years

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Post by tooltalk »

HPsquared wrote: post #13
tooltalk wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm surprised that Samsung managed to stay #1 globally for so long after forced out of China, after Xi's rise to power in 2013.

That goes both ways though, there's a slight but growing taboo about Chinese brands for many in the West. Edit: not forgetting tariffs and sanctions, of course.

All smartphone manufacturers were in China when Xi started shaking down the industry back in 2013 under the banner of "In China, For China." Samsung has diversified away and to Vietnam and India since, but I don't think we want to have a supply-chain all consolidated in one location/country.

I'm otherwise of opinion that the West's decisive counter measures are necessary against China's mercantile practices.

Re: Apple to beat Samsung in smartphone shipments for first time in 14 years

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Post by makeitdouble »

tooltalk wrote: post #51
dialup_sounds wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Weird take. Android is still ~80% of the market.

very weird indeed. Apple has ~20% of the global smartphone sales, but 80% of global industry profit. pareto?

> 80% of global industry profit.

Are you thinking about the "services", aka mostly mobile casinos ?

I never saw a figure of Apple making 80% of profit on the devices, I'd love to see where you get the number from.

Re: Apple to beat Samsung in smartphone shipments for first time in 14 years

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Post by Jblx2 »

gbear605 wrote: post #33
techsystems wrote: post #28

https://counterpointresearch.com/en/insights/global-smartpho... So every quarter this year except the last quarter, Samsung outsold Apple. So they're predicting that Q42025 for Samsung will be miserable sales or Apple will have skyrocketed sales?

The iPhone 17 (released in September) is selling extremely well, and Apple sales tend to be concentrated in Q4 due to the new phone (and the holidays, though those should also affect Samsung).

>(and the holidays, though those should also affect Samsung)

Doesn't Samsung release their new flagship phones in January/February?

Re: Apple to beat Samsung in smartphone shipments for first time in 14 years

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Post by gmueckl »

throwfaraway4 wrote: post #19
gmueckl wrote: post #16

So dark patterns to increase peer pressure and hard vendor lock in work then: exploiting networking effects and social pressure like green vs. blue bubbles, technically unnecessary hard requirements for other devices that are locked into the same garden prison, random compatibility restrictions/omissions in built in apps etc. Apple really is far from innocent. They just pull their customers over the table in such a s…

Or maybe they make better phones?

Not really? All Samsung phones that we owned were at least as good - with the exception of a phone that we bought from a US carrier. The carrier mods on that one phone were total shit. But these modifications are entirely avoidable by buying an unlocked phone.
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