Something has to change. The superrich act as parasites and broken all inter-generational promises. The USA really messed up here - they should have put down control systems to prevent this parasitic situation.
Peter Thiel's Apocalyptic Worldview Is a Dangerous Fantasy
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#42Maybe slightly off topic to the article, but I don't really care what Peter Thiel has to say. I do think we need to collectively think about how to not give these people a microphone. It's one thing to have concentrated wealth. It's a very different thing to have concentrated wealth and people's attention. I think that's a much more interesting discussion :).
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#43I mean, they have a point. But considering they run a whole journal on literal communism, it’s hard to take them seriously. The message falls flat when it comes from a different flavor of dangerous fantasy.
The core belief in communism is "collective ownership for the common good" which feels like a far cry from "the literal antichrist is coming." I could follow an argument that Jacobin is naive, but it seems silly to make the direct comparison to someone who thinks we're approaching some predictable end of days and say they're the same.
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#44I mean, they have a point. But considering they run a whole journal on literal communism, it’s hard to take them seriously. The message falls flat when it comes from a different flavor of dangerous fantasy.
Interesting that this is being downvoted considering "Thiel is a right-wing loon" and "Jacobin are a bunch of left-wing loons" are not mutually exclusive statements. They're both wrong, just in different ways, and observing this is not "bothsidesism."
there's lots of stupid brigading on HN, but sometimes dumb comments get the downvotes they deserve.
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#45And here I thought he was just trying to wrap his techno libertoonian worldview in the Book of Revelations in the hopes that the religious right would get behind it. Did I miss something?
Odd for a gay man to court those who support Leviticus stoning of gays. Self hating? Or just savvy?
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#46Thiel's ramblings seem so unhinged, delusions of grandeur. I am so thankful that I'm not rich enough to be surrounded by people who agree with every single half baked thought that I put out.
He's a weak, frail manchild masquerading as a cartoonish supervillain. Fuck him.
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#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nice "both sides" argument, very subtle.
When one side of crazies goes after a different side of crazies, “both sides are crazy” is an appropriate way to look at it.
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#48I mean, they have a point. But considering they run a whole journal on literal communism, it’s hard to take them seriously. The message falls flat when it comes from a different flavor of dangerous fantasy.
Jacobin is not a whole journal on literal communism. It’s a magazine with a professed socialist view point but it’s more aligned with left-of-center American politics. Think Sanders or Mamdani rather than Stalin or Mao.
> Sanders or Mamdani
Sanders and Mamdani are about as far left of center as one can get at the moment, such that they almost meld into Stalin or Mao.
The mental gymnastics you’re doing to blunt that fact is absolutely incredible.
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#49Thiel's ramblings seem so unhinged, delusions of grandeur. I am so thankful that I'm not rich enough to be surrounded by people who agree with every single half baked thought that I put out.
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#50The problem that this article has is essentially this: > Thiel by contrast is profiting from the use of AI weapons targeting systems used in the Ukraine war and the genocide in Gaza. Thiel is IMO not doing this for profit. He is deeply ideological, which should be more worrisome.
It is profit. The craziness is just the cover for it.