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Peter Thiel's Apocalyptic Worldview Is a Dangerous Fantasy

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Re: Peter Thiel's Apocalyptic Worldview Is a Dangerous Fantasy

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I mean, they have a point. But considering they run a whole journal on literal communism, it’s hard to take them seriously. The message falls flat when it comes from a different flavor of dangerous fantasy.

Nice "both sides" argument, very subtle.

Sometimes both sides do suck.

Re: Peter Thiel's Apocalyptic Worldview Is a Dangerous Fantasy

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post #7
post #4

I mean, they have a point. But considering they run a whole journal on literal communism, it’s hard to take them seriously. The message falls flat when it comes from a different flavor of dangerous fantasy.

Nice "both sides" argument, very subtle.

When one side of crazies goes after a different side of crazies, “both sides are crazy” is an appropriate way to look at it.

Re: Peter Thiel's Apocalyptic Worldview Is a Dangerous Fantasy

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Maybe slightly off topic to the article, but I don't really care what Peter Thiel has to say. I do think we need to collectively think about how to not give these people a microphone. It's one thing to have concentrated wealth. It's a very different thing to have concentrated wealth and people's attention. I think that's a much more interesting discussion :).

Re: Peter Thiel's Apocalyptic Worldview Is a Dangerous Fantasy

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I mean, they have a point. But considering they run a whole journal on literal communism, it’s hard to take them seriously. The message falls flat when it comes from a different flavor of dangerous fantasy.

Nice "both sides" argument, very subtle.

It’s intentionally blunt. That’s exactly the issue right now: fascists and communists are going at each other and tearing apart what remains of our liberal world.

Re: Peter Thiel's Apocalyptic Worldview Is a Dangerous Fantasy

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And here I thought he was just trying to wrap his techno libertoonian worldview in the Book of Revelations in the hopes that the religious right would get behind it. Did I miss something?

Odd for a gay man to court those who support Leviticus stoning of gays. Self hating? Or just savvy?

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Re: Peter Thiel's Apocalyptic Worldview Is a Dangerous Fantasy

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post #4

I mean, they have a point. But considering they run a whole journal on literal communism, it’s hard to take them seriously. The message falls flat when it comes from a different flavor of dangerous fantasy.

Jacobin is not a whole journal on literal communism.

It’s a magazine with a professed socialist view point but it’s more aligned with left-of-center American politics. Think Sanders or Mamdani rather than Stalin or Mao.

Re: Peter Thiel's Apocalyptic Worldview Is a Dangerous Fantasy

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The problem that this article has is essentially this:

> Thiel by contrast is profiting from the use of AI weapons targeting systems used in the Ukraine war and the genocide in Gaza.

Thiel is IMO not doing this for profit. He is deeply ideological, which should be more worrisome.

Re: Peter Thiel's Apocalyptic Worldview Is a Dangerous Fantasy

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post #4

I mean, they have a point. But considering they run a whole journal on literal communism, it’s hard to take them seriously. The message falls flat when it comes from a different flavor of dangerous fantasy.

Interesting that this is being downvoted considering "Thiel is a right-wing loon" and "Jacobin are a bunch of left-wing loons" are not mutually exclusive statements. They're both wrong, just in different ways, and observing this is not "bothsidesism."

Yeah, expect this to get flagged and vanish. This has nothing to do with anything even remotely interesting except to those who are emotionally invested with pwning their political or ideological opposition. At this level of discourse, they're all batshit bonkers.

Re: Peter Thiel's Apocalyptic Worldview Is a Dangerous Fantasy

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nice "both sides" argument, very subtle.

It’s intentionally blunt. That’s exactly the issue right now: fascists and communists are going at each other and tearing apart what remains of our liberal world.

It's not particularly worth saving

Re: Peter Thiel's Apocalyptic Worldview Is a Dangerous Fantasy

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post #4

I mean, they have a point. But considering they run a whole journal on literal communism, it’s hard to take them seriously. The message falls flat when it comes from a different flavor of dangerous fantasy.

Interesting that this is being downvoted considering "Thiel is a right-wing loon" and "Jacobin are a bunch of left-wing loons" are not mutually exclusive statements. They're both wrong, just in different ways, and observing this is not "bothsidesism."

As you observe, the original comment is wrong and as such it contributes nothing useful to the discussion.
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