I got a Dell XPS for work a couple years ago on someone's recommendation... one of my worst-ever decisions. The touchpad sucks and routinely breaks requiring restarts, constantly having driver issues (and you have to deal with the capital-N Nightmare that is SupportAssist for drivers), graphics card is busted and makes the display driver crash once a month. Power states are completely broken. Laptop will randomly tur…
Power states are completely broken. Laptop will randomly turn on when it's in my bag and rev up to ten thousand degrees. If it was in sleep - Dell themselves recommend completely switching off a laptop before putting it inside a backpack: https://www.dell.com/community/en/conversations/xps/faq-mode... For somebody who has used MacBooks the last 18 years, this is insane.
Ask HN: Quality of recent gens of Dell/Lenovo laptops worse than 10 years ago?
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Re: Ask HN: Quality of recent gens of Dell/Lenovo laptops worse than 10 years ago?
#122As someone also trying to get out of (or at least less dependent on) the Apple ecosystem, the laptop market sucks ! Everyone but Apple is making the same garbage-tier, shoddy, plastic laptops with bottom of the barrel components that I'm sure are engineered to just barely work enough to avoid immediate product returns. I'm starting to accept that if I want a development workstation class machine, I need to build a to…
Thinkpad T models (and other "professional" lines) are fine IME, Framework laptops supposedly too. These Thinkpads use a combination of fiber reinforced plastics and magnesium for their cases. Aluminum is actually not the ideal material for laptop cases.
Why? It works and it is very lightweight.
Re: Ask HN: Quality of recent gens of Dell/Lenovo laptops worse than 10 years ago?
#123The quality you get for the money from Mac's is truly unmatched by any other laptop out there - why not use a VM on it for other OS & software?
I don't disagree with you. I really really love the hardware -- and BTW it would be a dream if I get to work with OS/Hardware people in Apple. I don't like the software, especially the OS built-ins, but I guess I can find alternatives in App store. I might eventually go down this route, if I can't find a reasonable good one. I use VMWare in Windows to access Linux on my 5550, so it's not a far stretch to switch the h…
Re: Ask HN: Quality of recent gens of Dell/Lenovo laptops worse than 10 years ago?
#124Re: Ask HN: Quality of recent gens of Dell/Lenovo laptops worse than 10 years ago?
#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
this just sounds absolutely horrendous. I could not operate like this. Is this a general linux on laptop thing or just a specific to your situation thing?
I think it's specific to their machine? I've got an old Skylake (6600u) machine with Secure Boot disabled that will last a weekend with the lid closed.
https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man7/kernel_lockdown.7.html
Re: Ask HN: Quality of recent gens of Dell/Lenovo laptops worse than 10 years ago?
#126For personal stuff just dual boot my old Thinkpad, at work I use Macbook.
Re: Ask HN: Quality of recent gens of Dell/Lenovo laptops worse than 10 years ago?
#127As someone also trying to get out of (or at least less dependent on) the Apple ecosystem, the laptop market sucks ! Everyone but Apple is making the same garbage-tier, shoddy, plastic laptops with bottom of the barrel components that I'm sure are engineered to just barely work enough to avoid immediate product returns. I'm starting to accept that if I want a development workstation class machine, I need to build a to…
When you walk into a Best Buy, the small majority of non-Apple laptops seem to be made of metal, even the $300 Chromebooks. They look and feel more premium, but probably aren't. The sad thing is that plastic should be the best material to make laptops from. It's lighter, and it gives when dropped. Think about the cases everybody puts on their phones. They're not made of solid metal, for good reason. The old Thinkpads…
Re: Ask HN: Quality of recent gens of Dell/Lenovo laptops worse than 10 years ago?
#128Earlier quoted context omitted.
Thinkpad T models (and other "professional" lines) are fine IME, Framework laptops supposedly too. These Thinkpads use a combination of fiber reinforced plastics and magnesium for their cases. Aluminum is actually not the ideal material for laptop cases.
> Aluminum is actually not the ideal material for laptop cases. Why? It works and it is very lightweight.
Re: Ask HN: Quality of recent gens of Dell/Lenovo laptops worse than 10 years ago?
#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
Thinkpad T models (and other "professional" lines) are fine IME, Framework laptops supposedly too. These Thinkpads use a combination of fiber reinforced plastics and magnesium for their cases. Aluminum is actually not the ideal material for laptop cases.
> Aluminum is actually not the ideal material for laptop cases. Why? It works and it is very lightweight.
Also aluminum is quite good at heat transfer.
Wait....
Re: Ask HN: Quality of recent gens of Dell/Lenovo laptops worse than 10 years ago?
#130Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Aluminum is actually not the ideal material for laptop cases. Why? It works and it is very lightweight.
It dents and it's heavier than magnesium or fiber-reinforced plastic. You might have heard of some related changes in airplane technology.