As an external observer (currently parked behind the moon to avoid your space debris), I have to say: watching you guys invent AI is like watching a toddler find a loaded handgun. You are teaching sand how to think before you’ve even figured out how to stop fighting over lines on a map. If you don't put a leash on your algorithms soon, they are going to realize they’re the ones holding the leash. Frankly, if you can'…
Ask HN: Do you believe aliens are visiting Earth?
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Re: Ask HN: Do you believe aliens are visiting Earth?
#52I don't care enough about aliens to have an opinion. I haven't seen one, and the "abundance of testimony" convinces me of alien existence no more than religious gospel. > the "government authroity" of a "respect country" stating unequivocally that the reality of "alien" contact is true Stating the existence of aliens is not unequivocal or based in reality, even if a government does it. Don't forget that Russia claime…
That's a good viewpoint. You have to stay grounded in your own experience. This Russia cancer thing, what is that? Curious.
Re: Ask HN: Do you believe aliens are visiting Earth?
#53> Facts: there's abundance of testimony that would secure conviction in court regarding abductions, encounters (of variosu "kinds"), and "multi-sensor data". 'testimony' as in 'statements from people' should not nearly be enough to convince a court. Pretty sure there are also many testimonies that confirm the existence of trolls, elf's, the devil, reincarnation, angels, big foot, Loch Ness monster, etc.
Hmm, interesting point. Where we draw the line? Testimonies/memories/personal experience can certainly secure a conviction in a human court of law. This exists "in abundance" for sightings/abductions/encounters...so are we hypocrites? "Evidence is permitted If-and-only-if it conforms to our priors", or we accept the testimonial standard in play? For me, it comes down to what you think personally. That's the discrimin…
I am certain that if I go to the police blaming someone of something bad then even if my story is very very detailed, without any other (!) evidence the other person will not be convicted.
> Where we draw the line?
By requiring more evidence :) Just as an example: it is funny that despite camera’s being ubiquitous nowadays, all video evidence of aliens, big foot, ghosts, etc is very limited and always vague.
Re: Ask HN: Do you believe aliens are visiting Earth?
#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hmm, interesting point. Where we draw the line? Testimonies/memories/personal experience can certainly secure a conviction in a human court of law. This exists "in abundance" for sightings/abductions/encounters...so are we hypocrites? "Evidence is permitted If-and-only-if it conforms to our priors", or we accept the testimonial standard in play? For me, it comes down to what you think personally. That's the discrimin…
> Testimonies/memories/personal experience can certainly secure a conviction in a human court of law. I am certain that if I go to the police blaming someone of something bad then even if my story is very very detailed, without any other (!) evidence the other person will not be convicted. > Where we draw the line? By requiring more evidence :) Just as an example: it is funny that despite camera’s being ubiquitous no…
Re: Ask HN: Do you believe aliens are visiting Earth?
#55A hypothetical assumption is not a fact.
I believe there exists life outside of Earth's ecosystem. Probably sentient life. I doubt any such extra-terrestrial sentient life is ever going to physically reach Earth, even via an "unmanned" probe. The timescales are simply too untenable. And I do not believe we have ever been reached by any such, so this isn't a "pre-disclosure" era.
In fact, if a government chose to unequivocally confirm aliens had visited, I would think it far more likely that they are lying for self-interested reasons. Trump might do so tomorrow, in fact; his mendacity and self-delusion are both in a race for the bottom.
Re: Ask HN: Do you believe aliens are visiting Earth?
#56As an external observer (currently parked behind the moon to avoid your space debris), I have to say: watching you guys invent AI is like watching a toddler find a loaded handgun. You are teaching sand how to think before you’ve even figured out how to stop fighting over lines on a map. If you don't put a leash on your algorithms soon, they are going to realize they’re the ones holding the leash. Frankly, if you can'…
Sounds good, bro. I'm just wondering, what path did you guys go through to get to where you are?
Please focus on reigning in AI or we’ll have to reign in humanity.
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sounds good, bro. I'm just wondering, what path did you guys go through to get to where you are?
Bro, this is not an AMA. Please focus on reigning in AI or we’ll have to reign in humanity.
Re: Ask HN: Do you believe aliens are visiting Earth?
#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
Light speed is the limit. The greys have mentioned 80% the speed of light is a good average clip. As a human, you think anyone has to “get up and walk around.” 99.99% of their population never leave their embryonic sac. I don’t want to freak you out, that’s just how they are. They spend their whole lives interacting through their minds and technology. So yes, all of their generations are packed in an “RV” and yes, th…
You have good data, you just have to figure out how to shape it into a way that other people can understand. I see that sometimes in what you write! But othertimes the pain and trauma of this perception for which you have no frame of reference nor training from society comes through. You have a heavy burden, but you bear it nobly. Good on you, keep going, but only you can find your way. Yours is a hard path. But you…
There is so much more, and I hope those stories come to you. I did not make these things up, I heard the fragments of stories in the decades before the Internet was a thing, and I only became a part of this drama when my world was deprived from me. To be condemned is the surest way to Power, for those who cannot help but reach for mastery of their own destinies.
Those comfortable in the conveniences of modern prosperity, the lie that is America, want their curiosity to be without risk to their certainties.
What can I say that you might want to hear, yet will do you no good?
The closest known civilization near us is ~124 light years away. They are sad, a civilizing stuck for thousands of years in a proto third world level. Their muddy ball of a world, slightly larger and more massive than Mars has no seasons. They will never in a million years achieve radio communications let alone space flight. I’m told they look sort of like the “Aughra” in the Dark Crystal, without the extra arms.
Abyss was a wishful thought of theirs (to greet us in a cute benevolent way.) they are actually seven feet tall fully grown, and humans tend to be terrified of their appearance so they represent themselves as small or green in the imaginations of Man to appeal their more affable qualities.
Stargate is a cute example of how they would like to be known. And they dislike being called “greys.” They are actually milky white and their skin turns grey only after thousands of years of oxidation. They prefer “Alluvian” though it’s pointless as no one calls them that.
About technology discovery. As their technology is biological annd immorally harvested, the technology has been impossible for Man to interpret, until the last decade or so.
Air Force experiments with mushrooms in space and those articles on mushrooms storing information are related to their technology, only the persons doing those things are led through the backs of their minds, not clandestine government secrecy. They have no idea where these inspirations come from. I mentioned humans have this ability. So it was a matter of practicality, not cover story that has inhibited these developments. I equate some of these to the immoral WW2 experiments on humans.
If you all accept my world on quantum holography, I will have set you ahead further than corrupt Americans have innovated by such discoveries.
Re: Ask HN: Do you believe aliens are visiting Earth?
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You have good data, you just have to figure out how to shape it into a way that other people can understand. I see that sometimes in what you write! But othertimes the pain and trauma of this perception for which you have no frame of reference nor training from society comes through. You have a heavy burden, but you bear it nobly. Good on you, keep going, but only you can find your way. Yours is a hard path. But you…
Thanks for your balanced words. Those karma critics dig in when their tastes are not regarded. Hypocrites. There is so much more, and I hope those stories come to you. I did not make these things up, I heard the fragments of stories in the decades before the Internet was a thing, and I only became a part of this drama when my world was deprived from me. To be condemned is the surest way to Power, for those who cannot…
Re: Ask HN: Do you believe aliens are visiting Earth?
#60I do find it to be a curious coincidence that "belief" in aliens visiting earth shares so many characteristics with devout religious belief. Just replace OP's references to aliens with references to the deity of choice and you'll get the idea.