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Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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Are you aware of Kagi (kagi.com)? With them, at least the AI stuff can be turned off. Membership is presently about 61k, and seems to be growing about 2k per month: https://kagi.com/stats

The AI stuff in google search can be turned off. https://www.google.com/search?udm=14&q=kagi My default browser search tool is set to google with ?udm=14 automatically appended.

What is UDM? Presumably the U is Urchin but what’s the rest?

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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As mentioned half a year ago at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44239481

As mentioned 7 months ago https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43811732

As mentioned in this thread :P https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46103662

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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post #331

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The AI stuff in google search can be turned off. https://www.google.com/search?udm=14&q=kagi My default browser search tool is set to google with ?udm=14 automatically appended.

What is UDM? Presumably the U is Urchin but what’s the rest?

Never seen it documented.

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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The problem really is that it is impossible to verify that the content someone uploads came from their mind and not a computer program. And at some point probably all content is at least influenced by AI. The real issue is also not that I used chatgpt to look up a synonym or asked a question before writing an article, the problem is when I copy paste the content and claim I wrote it.

There doesn't need to be any difference in treatment between AI slop and human slop. The point isn't to keep AI out - it's to keep spam and slop out. It doesn't matter whether it's produced by a being made of carbon or silicon. If someone can consistently produce high-quality content with AI assistance, so be it. Let them. Most don't, though.

I think the main issue is that when content is hand written you can be certain someone put at least the effort it takes to write into it. And while some people write fast, I would assume that at least means they have read their own writing once.

AIslop you can produce faster than you're able to read it. This makes it incredibly costly to filter out in comparison. It just messes so much with the signal to noise ratio on the web.

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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> This is a search tool that will only return content created before ChatGPT's first public release on November 30, 2022. The problem is that Google's search engine - but, oddly enough, ALL search engines - got worse before that already. I noticed that search engines got worse several years before 2022. So, AI further decreased the quality, but the quality had a downwards trend already, as it was. There are some atte…

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Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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Projects like this remind me of a plot point in the Cyberpunk 2077 game universe. The "first internet" got too infected with dangerous AIs, so much so that a massive firewall needed to be built, and a "new" internet was built that specifically kept out the harmful AIs. (Or something like that: it's been awhile since I played the game, and I don't remember the specific details of the story.) It makes me wonder if a ne…

The problem really is that it is impossible to verify that the content someone uploads came from their mind and not a computer program. And at some point probably all content is at least influenced by AI. The real issue is also not that I used chatgpt to look up a synonym or asked a question before writing an article, the problem is when I copy paste the content and claim I wrote it.

> And at some point probably all content is at least influenced by AI.

[citation needed]

(I see absolutely no reason why that should be the case)

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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For most commercial related terms, I suspect if you got rid of all “spanmy” results you would be left with almost nothing. No independent blogger is gonna write about the best credit card with travel points.

Sites like Credit Karma / NerdWallet exist. While I think they are rife with affiliate link nonsense and paid promotion masquerading as advice, I'm also pretty sure they have paid researchers and writers generating genuine content. Not sure that quite falls into the bucket of SEO blogspam.

It still counts because they would only ever recommend affiliate partnered products.

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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For most commercial related terms, I suspect if you got rid of all “spanmy” results you would be left with almost nothing. No independent blogger is gonna write about the best credit card with travel points.

I had a coworker who kept up a blog about random purchases she’d made, where she would earn some money via affiliate links. I thought it was horrendously boring and weird, and the money made was basically pocket change, but she seemed to enjoy it. You might be surprised, people write about all sorts of things.

People used to do it early internet before affiliate marketing really took it over. Certainly it was more genuine and products were bemoaned for their compromises in one dimension as much as praised for their performance in another. Everything is a glowing review now and comparisons are therefore meaningless.
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